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Some A-10 Warthogs may dodge retirement under proposed Senate bill
Yahoo ^ | July 11, 2025 | Stephen Losey

Posted on 07/12/2025 9:19:36 PM PDT by george76

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1 posted on 07/12/2025 9:19:36 PM PDT by george76
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They’ve been dodging retirement since the 80’s!


2 posted on 07/12/2025 9:22:12 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: george76

What replacing the A-10s?


3 posted on 07/12/2025 9:22:39 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He was so fat that it took a year for his memory foam mattress to forget him. )
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Given the cuts being proposed it doesn’t seem to me that the Neocons at DOD feel very threatened by ‘Russian Aggression’. I do know that in the late 1930s FDR did feel threatened and did sharply ramp-up our military.


4 posted on 07/12/2025 9:26:04 PM PDT by BobL
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“What replacing the A-10s?”

Doesn’t really matter, we’ll all die of old age by the time something gets developed.


5 posted on 07/12/2025 9:27:12 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BradyLS

They sure have outlasted a bunch of generals that tried to get the plane canned.


6 posted on 07/12/2025 9:33:42 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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What is replacing the A-10s?

A $100,000,000 dollar F-235 that no colonel or general will order to conduct low-level close air support.

The DOD needs to force the Air Force to give the A-10s to the Army and let them fly the CAS missions. There is STILL nothing better to do that than an A-10.


7 posted on 07/12/2025 9:34:04 PM PDT by Bryan24
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What replacing the A-10s?

There may be several aircraft, possibly one is the MQ-9 Reaper. There may be others as well.

8 posted on 07/12/2025 9:34:21 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF ISR pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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The A-10 is a classic like the B-52, and the SR-71. There is no replacement.


9 posted on 07/12/2025 9:37:05 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (‘Never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals’)
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Exactly! Such an awesome weapon too! Videos of them spraying bullets at enemies is truly something to behold. The enemies sure knew what the sound of them meant- death! The gunships wi5h the same guns on them were awesome too! They flew higher, and could wipe out buildings and enemy from a long ways up with those guns. BRRRRRRRT!


10 posted on 07/12/2025 10:14:35 PM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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To: george76

My son’s best friend in Iraq was an A-10 or Apache Gun Ship, but mostly the Apache.

Why in the hell would we retire a flying tank, the A-10?
The only thing wrong with the A-10 is it does not have painted on its side United States Army.


11 posted on 07/12/2025 10:49:43 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist ,MAGA)
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To: george76

Easy solution: For every A-10 that the USAF retires, it loses one golf course. For every air-worthy A-10 that is removed from service but is not transferred to the Marines or National Guard, the USAF loses one flag officer.


12 posted on 07/13/2025 12:04:19 AM PDT by jz638
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To: george76

Stupid move if the A-10s are cut loose...IMHO...


13 posted on 07/13/2025 1:32:22 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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Leave A-10 alone!

(meme kid reference)

The A-10 is a crowd favorite because everyone loves the BRRRRRRRRRT.


14 posted on 07/13/2025 2:03:13 AM PDT by Yardstick
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Ask the Ground Forces if they want to keep the A-10 Warthog in service. I’ll bet they will say YES !!!

First show Us the ACTUAL REPLACEMENT AIRCRAFT.
Then ask the Ground Forces to Opine on the choices.

STUPID ARMCHAIR DO NOTHINGS.


15 posted on 07/13/2025 2:35:08 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! I’m a fraud, hypocrite & liar. I'm a member of Congress!! )
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To: Bryan24

Wasn’t there a fight between the USAF and Army in the Vietnam era where the Air Force thought the Army had too many fixed wing aircraft? If my memory is correct, the Army had the Caribou which the Air Force managed to get transferred to them.

I believe that mentality still exists. The Army will never get the A-10’s.


16 posted on 07/13/2025 3:37:36 AM PDT by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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“...The DOD needs to force the Air Force to give the A-10s to the Army and let them fly the CAS missions. There is STILL nothing better to do that than an A-10....”

^THAT^ would be the common sense thing to do. But alas, common sense and DOD just don’t seem to mix too well; especially, when it comes to the Air Force.
Transfer em to the service that benefits the most from em: Army, Marine Corps, etc. The A-10 is in a class by itself. There’s nothing out there that can do that job better than an A-10. Don’t think so? Just ask the guys on the ground about em....


17 posted on 07/13/2025 4:36:29 AM PDT by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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....”..The proposed E-7 and F-35 cuts sent shockwaves through the Air Force community and prompted 16 retired four-star generals — including six former chiefs of staff — to speak out against the changes.”....

....I wonder how many of these retired generals have financial interests in keeping this F-35 boondoggle afloat....how many are on the boards of directors of these defense [sic] contractor companies....??


18 posted on 07/13/2025 5:19:33 AM PDT by TokarevM57
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To: george76
Looks like the end for the A-10 has finally come.

The thing that made the A-10 great was the pilots that flew it.

They always made the A-10 too useful to die and they are a huge asset.

It's going to get really hard to find the new planes to fly if the shut the A-10 program down cold turkey instead of a phased draw down. Same thing can be said for the ground crews.

Recent events in Ukraine and the Middle East demonstrate that the A-10 is not going to be an effective or survivable asset in any future war.

The life expectancy of the A-10 in the kind of a peer or near peer war we expect to fight is going to be nil and that up close and personal is not the most effective way to perform the CAS function to support troops on the ground in today's warfare so the decision makes sense. The A-10 does not make sense for the US in any future conflict scenario with China which is our current focus and it would face the same fate as the Russian Su -25 in a European NATO style conflict.

The kind of low intensity, counter insurgency war against far from near peer forces that the A-10 excels in is the kind of wars that President Trump has pledged to keep America out of so the A-10 has kind of lost it's mission.

Even in Afghanistan, the A-10 was a very effective weapon but it was a way too expensive over kill solution to be a perfect fit for the mission but it was all we had. It is really hard to justify the cost of keeping the A-10 flying due to lack of mission in today's tight budget environment.

Of course, we will probably end up needing the A-10 and will be regretting this decision in the future but that is life

19 posted on 07/13/2025 5:24:17 AM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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I think it was originally intended to be an Army plane but long ago somebody intervened for the AF to have them, and now a lot of A-10's are assigned to Air National Guard fighter squadrons. One of those is the MI ANG 107th "Red Devils" FS and they've been operating the A-10 at SANGb now for 16+ years. Prior to the A-10, the Squadron flew F-16C/D until 2009.


Earlier this year, Trump let on that Selfridge could be back in the business of flying supersonic fighters once again! If there is a transition there to the F-15EX in '28, the 107th A-10's would have to be holdovers for a year or so. The on-base air museum has had an A-10 (110th Fighter Wing, MI ANG, Battle Creek) sitting in it's air park for 15+ years now. If the 107th lands the F-15EX, attendance at the Museum should go through the roof.
20 posted on 07/13/2025 5:30:57 AM PDT by equaviator (Nobody's perfect. That's why they put pencils on erasers!)
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