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Trump considers greenlighting new funding for Ukraine, sources say
CBS News via Yahoo ^ | July 12th, 2025 | Margaret Brennan

Posted on 07/12/2025 9:34:52 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: adorno

It looks like a beautiful balloon.


101 posted on 07/12/2025 4:44:47 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: Owen

Of course there is negative, it is why I had to correct your misleading people on what the data says.

You are trying to sell a point of view, not actual data.


102 posted on 07/12/2025 4:49:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Mariner

Why not just let Graham play president for the rest of the term?


103 posted on 07/12/2025 4:52:36 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Mariner
“Right and wrong’s got nothing to do with it.”

I think it has everything to do with it, as this is a fundamental aspect of being an American, and to do nothing to aid Ukraine or to let Putin win would be wrong.

A lot of Americans like me grew up on westerns, cop shows and law and order programs like Perry Mason where the good guys ALWAYS rode to the rescue of those who needed help, who needed to be saved from bad people and bad situations. The compelling need to help is or was in our national DNA and, for some, our Christian DNA, first and foremost.

The American military did this or tried to in WWs I&II, Korea, Vietnam and many other conflicts around the world and I think Ukraine is another such occasion where we have to help.

Why? Because, America has been blessed with great wealth and power in the world and, as Uncle Ben told Peter Parker, “With great power comes great responsibility.”

And that sounds a lot like “to whom much is given much is required” from Luke 12:48.

I also grew up on comic book super heroes who had to fight the evil super villains, no matter what. It’s a call to duty that must be answered.

Russia is being evil and doing evil and “evil triumphs when good people do nothing.” But if they do nothing to stop that evil, then they aren’t all that good anyway, are they?

I believe President Trump is a good man and I believe we are still a good people and a good country, which is why President Trump will help Ukraine. It’s the right thing to do.

104 posted on 07/12/2025 6:39:18 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere. Onward through the fog …)
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To: GBA

There’s a whole bunch of people in Africa that could use your do-gooderism.

Then you can go help the Norklandians.

Oops. That’s right.
They’re not Ukrainians.

Truth! Justice! The American Way!


105 posted on 07/12/2025 8:20:13 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
I’m sure Americans are doing that now. Americans are some of the most generous and giving people when it comes to charity and I’m not ashamed of that.

We, the people, may be effed up and crazy these days, but, as imperfect as we are, we somehow managed to elect Donald J. Trump 2 or 3 times, we still believe in God and we still do what we can to give to those in need and help those who need help.

And Russia is still as effed up as it ever was, apparently, and I am grateful to God that I was not born there or next door to them. I’ve seen how they treat their own and their neighbors. None for me, thanks.

106 posted on 07/12/2025 8:28:55 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere. Onward through the fog …)
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To: lastchance
It looks like a beautiful balloon.

Not chess anymore, of any number of dimensions.

Do you know what two-dimensional chess, with the fourth dimension added, looks like or feels like? (Hint, nobody ever loses, and the game lasts forever, until somebody decides to quit).
107 posted on 07/13/2025 8:04:44 AM PDT by adorno ( )
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Right and wrong’s got nothing to do with it.

You're right.

With Putin, it's what's natural to him, whether we deem his actions right or wrong. It's like a wolf which kills to eat, and which is neither right or wrong, as far as the wolf is concerned.

In the case of Putin, he's not like a wolf, but more like a monster with no humanity within any part of his body.

Humans and monsters cannot coexist.
108 posted on 07/13/2025 8:11:33 AM PDT by adorno ( )
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To: adorno

I think you have chess confused with Risk.


109 posted on 07/13/2025 11:18:45 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: adorno

“Humans and monsters cannot coexist.”

What’s changed?

They have been coexisting for millennia, if not longer.
Hell, they’re everywhere.


110 posted on 07/13/2025 1:35:29 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“Trump wants a deal to end the war in Ukraine.”
The question is: Why is it so important to him? Why not just walk away?
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Why should you care what Trump wants to do in Ukraine? Why don’t you just walk away? Trump will not be sending any troops there. He will be sending some weapons that European nations will pay for.
This is not a forever war, if when Trump arms Ukraine against Russian mafia thugs.
Anyways blame your hero Vlad Putin, for getting Trump pissed off enough to arm Ukraine.


111 posted on 07/13/2025 1:41:36 PM PDT by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity)
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