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Senator Van Hollen Claims Illegal Aliens Have U.S. “Constitutional Rights”
The Last Refuge ^ | April 20, 2025 | Sundance

Posted on 04/20/2025 2:25:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: central_va

It’s weird how human garbage/NPR shill joesucks and his ideological twin self-identify on Free Republic with their reflexive hatred of Ashli Babbitt.

They’re so drunk on Gaslight Media propaganda over January 6th that they come on here and can’t help themselves.

It’s a great way to identify Lefty shills here. Put the Ashli question to them.

The one you’re trying to instruct about Ashli Babbitt has been booted off for NeverTrumping more than once.


201 posted on 04/20/2025 9:13:08 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Fuzz; central_va
He looks at you as a compatriot obviously.

Not so much a compatriot, as a hunting buddy. 😁

He needs friends to back up him up and he called on you.

I think he did fine, and got all the 'help' he needed from others.

You beetlejuice?


202 posted on 04/20/2025 9:16:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: Fuzz; central_va; GingisK
We all can’t wait for that golden nugget after you’re done taking that dump.

If you call picking up a loved one from a hospital, "taking a dump", I'd hate to be in your family.

Golden nugget to follow.

203 posted on 04/20/2025 9:19:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: Lazamataz; central_va

Fuzz #197: “She [Ashli Babbitt] fa and fo.”

What is it with this human garbage infesting Free Republic that they just love them some dead Ashli Babbitt on Easter Sunday?


204 posted on 04/20/2025 9:31:05 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: SoConPubbie; All

This guy is dumber than Kamala.


205 posted on 04/20/2025 9:42:26 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Fuzz; central_va; GingisK; kiryandil; piytar
What constitutional right was violated?

Several:

I see a lot of discussion about this angle or that angle, of video of the Babbitt murder. For purposes of this discussion, I'll stipulate that your interpretation (that Babbitt was crawling through a broken window) is correct. Now, on to this:

Again, if someone was attempting to crawl through a broken window at your home or place of business, what would your response be?

You are conflating two scenarios into one. In the scenario you present, of invasion of a domicile, most jurisdictions would provide great latitude in the application of deadly force against an intruder. There is a presumption that "a man's home is his castle", which is actually written out in several states that implement a Castle Doctrine Law.

Not so with your second scenario. In no reasonable world is it ever stated that "a man's business is his castle." In no state does the Castle Doctrine Law cover non-residential business property. The only reasonable application of lethal force in this situation is that the defender of the property have reason to believe they are personally under threat of serious physical harm (or that a serious felony such as arson is imminent)... and even then, in liberal jurisdiction, a defender of a property can expect investigation and possible indictment.

And what is D.C., but the most liberal of liberal environments?

What does the United States Capitol building most resemble? A business, certainly not a domicile... despite being the location of the House. 😊

So, the second scenario applies, meaning that this 6'1", 250lb man, armed with a pistol, would have to be in fear of serious bodily damage by an awkwardly-positioned, 5'2", 115lb woman. In a liberal jurisdiction such as D.C., any such defense of a non-residential location would certainly be prosecuted by any of the many DA's....if Byrd was a mere citizen.

So, by acting in this manner, and especially since he was a government employee, his prudent action would not be to shoot, but to easily overpower this woman and hold her for arrest.

THIS is how her Constitutional rights were violated.

206 posted on 04/20/2025 9:51:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: Fuzz; cableguymn

No bond for people waived into the Capitol and walking between the velvet ropes.

-fJRoberts-


207 posted on 04/20/2025 9:53:33 PM PDT by A strike ("My country is fd up. I demand you let us in to fix yours..")
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To: Jonty30; All

Persons in the UnitedStates have some rights under the U.S.Constitution but not the full and complete set due a U.S. citizen.
Especially not if illegally here !


208 posted on 04/20/2025 10:01:05 PM PDT by A strike ("My country is fd up. I demand you let us in to fix yours..")
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To: kiryandil
What is it with this human garbage infesting Free Republic that they just love them some dead Ashli Babbitt on Easter Sunday?

It's odd that they are choosing Easter Sunday to act out.

Still, Fuzz's statements don't exhibit the disgusting and depraved indifference to human life, that joesbuck's statements did.

209 posted on 04/20/2025 10:04:22 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: A strike

My understanding of a previous Supreme Court ruling is that aliens get accommodations, which act like rights but they aren’t rights. That is what I understood the position of the Supreme Court around 1962 took.


210 posted on 04/20/2025 10:17:55 PM PDT by Jonty30 (I can promise I can land any plane that is in the air, because gravity only moves in one direction.)
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To: Lazamataz

Well written Laz.


211 posted on 04/20/2025 10:58:05 PM PDT by piytar (Remember Ashli Babbitt, Rosanne Boyland, and Corey Comperatore!)
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To: Jonty30; All

Thx, I was in no way disagreeing with you, but simply trying to point out to the all too many fools opining here that not ALL U.S.Constitutional rights automatically adhere to anyone and everyone physically present here. even that total dumb@hole Roberts wouldn’t argue that!!
For example as has been mentioned here the Second Amendment (among others) does not give the right to keep and bear Arms to just anyone who illegally enters the country.
Even more fundamentally, the Declarations’ enshrinement of ‘Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness’ is not absolute as these have necessarily been and often are withdrawn under law.


212 posted on 04/20/2025 11:43:30 PM PDT by A strike ("My country is fd up. I demand you let us in to fix yours..")
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m disappointed that Shannon Bream didn’t challenge him.


213 posted on 04/20/2025 11:47:50 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: A strike

The Second Amendment would be especially dangerous, if the rights were given to the alien at the same level as the citizen. Good point.


214 posted on 04/20/2025 11:51:01 PM PDT by Jonty30 (I can promise I can land any plane that is in the air, because gravity only moves in one direction.)
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To: A strike

The Second Amendment are what the left are after when they want the Constitution applied to everybody.


215 posted on 04/21/2025 12:12:16 AM PDT by Jonty30 (I can promise I can land any plane that is in the air, because gravity only moves in one direction.)
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To: central_va; Fuzz
Murder. The civil case will be a slam dunk.

Respectfully submitted, there is no civil case that is a slam dunk. Ever.

216 posted on 04/21/2025 3:42:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Hes an idiot jim and there are plenty of idiots out there that agree with this idiot


217 posted on 04/21/2025 3:46:28 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Fuzz
She did, but apparently with the blessings of the cops. Just after she hit the floor a large team with weapons ready came up the stairs. How convenient was that?

It looked like a setup, Fuzz.

218 posted on 04/21/2025 4:46:50 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: A strike
but simply trying to point out to the all too many fools opining here that not ALL U.S.Constitutional rights automatically adhere to anyone and everyone physically present here.

Can you cite written authority on that one, please?

219 posted on 04/21/2025 4:50:53 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK; A strike
Can you cite written authority on that one, please?

Hey there GK. I don't have the time to look it up, but I believe 'a strike' is correct. I've read this.

220 posted on 04/21/2025 5:41:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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