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Alabama puts man convicted of killing 3 to death in the country’s second nitrogen gas execution
WIVB4 ^ | Kim Chandler

Posted on 09/27/2024 6:46:24 AM PDT by TheDon

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To: Carl Vehse
indicates you agree

No.

It indicates I think you're being silly.

Otherwise, why bring it up?!

YOU brought it up. YOU'RE the one who thinks hanging is simple and nitrogen asphyxiation is complicated.

Don't try to pretend that you think a rope and a tree is somehow a realistic way of executing a death sentence by hanging in America in th XXI Century. You're not stupid.

41 posted on 09/27/2024 12:12:32 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: TheDon

If we want to kill people painlessly, give them a bullet to the head. In fact we could let the convicted do that themselves. Tell them, “ We will hang you or give you a gun with one bullet. It’s up to you.”


42 posted on 09/27/2024 12:14:39 PM PDT by Diversity Is Our Weakness
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To: whitney69

Not all respirators are made from latex, there are some very good models on the market made of other types of rubber.


43 posted on 09/27/2024 1:45:34 PM PDT by 5th MEB (1)
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To: NorthMountain
NorthMountain @41: "It indicates I think you're being silly."

The procedural questions I posted about nitrogen gas execution are not silly, except in your opinion. You have provide no evidence that these questions are simple to answer or irrelevant. You just brought up another method of execution and "when the condemned person’s head gets ripped off".

I have provided references indicating that the technical complexity of hanging is not very difficult and has previously been addressed in written procedures to follow. I suspect that nitrogen gas execution will also become more standardized once the issues I noted are addressed in procedures that are followed.

Of course, people who oppose capital punishment will always object in some way to any method used.

44 posted on 09/27/2024 1:56:45 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Carl Vehse

You’ve gone from being silly to being dishonest.

YOU invented the idea that nitrogen asphyxiation is “complicated” ... and then YOU brought up hanging. Now you want to pretend that I brought up hanging????

Baloney!

Buzz off.

I will neither read nor respond to any further comments from you on this topic.


45 posted on 09/27/2024 2:11:25 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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NorthMountain @45:: "YOU invented the idea that nitrogen asphyxiation is “complicated” ... and then YOU brought up hanging."

I first said nitrogen gas execution "sounds complicated" and then referred to using a simple rope and gravity.

Responding to your comment, "Nitrogen gas is very simple," I listed some of the complexities involved in a nitrogen gas execution.

Your response was to refer to the list as a "siily game" and bring up a person's head getting ripped off in a hanging.

Now you claim I am being dishonest, thus resorting to an ad hominem with no substantiation. I can see why you don't want to respond anymore.

46 posted on 09/27/2024 2:28:50 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Orosius

Because you would have to get an official Fentanyl supplier. The reason Alabama switched to nitrogen is because the anti death penalty supporters harassed doctors and medical suppliers so none of them would sell the drugs for the lethal injection.

Administering nitrogen doesn’t require medical training or obtaining rare items. Just a simple machine to concentrate the nitrogen then release to the condemned.


47 posted on 09/27/2024 3:18:42 PM PDT by sloanrb
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"Why not helium for the amusement of all?"

Helium is WAY more expensive than nitrogen.

48 posted on 09/27/2024 6:29:34 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (NRA Life Member)
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“Not made of latex.”

There are all kinds of problems with the masks for CPAP/APAP machines. I just mentioned latex as some are made and I have an alergy to it. Other substances are silicone, gel pack, and hard plastics. Each one has its own drawbacks. I used to use a mask called the dream weaver which was fabric and I was successful with it. But the company that made it stopped, and the people that supplied my equipment stopped sending them when their wearhouse ran out. Now I use hard plastic as it has no skin sealing problems. Just rolling over on to a non-forgiving substance. Can’t win.

Talked with my cardio guy about a sleep apnea implant but I already have a cardiomemms implant and they don’t get along well. One disrupts the other. So as each mask “improvement” comes out we try to...improve. Nothing on this rock is perfect.

wy69


49 posted on 09/28/2024 4:56:31 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: NorthMountain; 5th MEB

“Not made of latex.”

There are all kinds of problems with the masks for CPAP/APAP machines. I just mentioned latex as some are made and I have an alergy to it. Other substances are silicone, gel pack, and hard plastics. Each one has its own drawbacks. I used to use a mask called the dream weaver which was fabric and I was successful with it. But the company that made it stopped, and the people that supplied my equipment stopped sending them when their wearhouse ran out. Now I use hard plastic as it has no skin sealing problems. Just rolling over on to a non-forgiving substance. Can’t win.

Talked with my cardio guy about a sleep apnea implant but I already have a cardiomemms implant and they don’t get along well. One disrupts the other. So as each mask “improvement” comes out we try to...improve. Nothing on this rock is perfect.

wy69


50 posted on 09/28/2024 4:56:31 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: whitney69

I really don’t think allergies are a concern when the person wearing the mask is going to be dead a few minutes after having it strapped to his face.


51 posted on 09/28/2024 6:18:28 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
When they do lethal injection why do they swipe the injection sight with alcohol? To prevent an infection? That is cray cray.
52 posted on 09/28/2024 6:24:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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“I really don’t think allergies are a concern...”

It depends on the level of concern. If your face is breaking out, and many times infecting from a mask causing burning, weaping, pain, and swelling, you can only take the problems one at a time. When any mask can get the problem of death alleviated, then it is time to look for a mask that alleviates the other problem. You can buy a car to travel. But would you buy a car too small for you to get into and ride in comfortably if you can buy another that is bigger? You might. But sooner or later you’re going to consider there is a better way and that bigger car becomes a reality for relief. Trading death for discomfort, is a step up. But when there are other problems attached to the original, you take them one at a time starting with the biggest one first.

wy69


53 posted on 09/29/2024 7:28:23 AM PDT by whitney69
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