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China’s newest nuclear-powered submarine sank earlier this year, US officials say
CNN ^ | 26-SEP-2024 | Oren Liebermann and Paul P. Murphy

Posted on 09/26/2024 2:36:55 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: ifinnegan

Well at least one of them got away with robbery.


21 posted on 09/26/2024 4:05:41 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Brandon's pronouns: Xi/Hur)
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To: BenLurkin
Screen door malfunction.

A screen door on a submarine? What lunatic dreamed that up? Maybe the same dude, who was trying to fly lead balloons??? 😀

22 posted on 09/26/2024 4:14:44 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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23 posted on 09/26/2024 4:26:50 PM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Guitarro_(SSN-665)

We sank one of our subs in the docks at Mare Island, Vallejo, California:

On 15 May 1969, Guitarro was moored in the Napa River at Mare Island Naval Shipyard while construction was still underway. At about 16:00, a civilian nuclear construction group began to calibrate the aft ballast tanks, which required them to fill the tanks with approximately 5 short tons (4.5 t) of water.

Within 30 minutes, a different, non-nuclear civilian construction group began an assignment to bring Guitarro within a half-degree of trim; this entailed adding water to the forward ballast tanks to overcome a reported two-degree up-bow attitude. Until shortly before 20:00, both groups continued to add water, unaware of each other’s activities.[1]

Twice between 16:30 and 20:00, a security watch advised the non-nuclear group that Guitarro was riding so low forward that the 1.5-foot-high (0.46 m) wakes of boats operating in the Napa River were sloshing into the sonar dome manhole, but the group ignored the warnings.

At 19:45, the non-nuclear group stopped adding water to the ballast tanks and began to halt work for their meal break, leaving at 20:00. At 19:50, the nuclear group completed their calibrations and began to empty the tanks aft.[1]

At 20:30, both the nuclear group, still aboard, and the non-nuclear group, returning from their break, noticed Guitarro taking a sudden down angle which put the forward hatches underwater. Massive flooding took place through several large open hatches. Efforts between 20:30 and 20:45 to close watertight doors and hatches were largely unsuccessful because lines and cables ran through the doors and hatches, preventing them from closing. At 20:55, Guitarro sank, leaving only her sail above water, earning her the nickname “Mare Island Mud Puppy”.[1]


24 posted on 09/26/2024 4:43:24 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have no shortage of so-called experts, who state things as fact, but really have no idea!)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
RuZZia and China are being demilitarized.

Big difference between China now, and Japan during WWII. Japan built their ships to resist sinking from American attacks. China builds their ships to sink themselves while at port.

Recently watched a video about the Japanese battleship Yamato, biggest and most powerful battleship ever built. Built to survive multiple attacks from American shells and torpedoes, while having larger guns and shells than the Americans. But they didn't figure on new American aircraft concentrating an all-out attack from the air. We can pretty much counter any of the Chinese naval ships if war breaks out, unless we have DEI commanders.

25 posted on 09/26/2024 6:04:54 PM PDT by roadcat ( )
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To: ifinnegan
They drink soy for breakfast.

Hmm…good point.

26 posted on 09/26/2024 10:22:25 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: roadcat
We can pretty much counter any of the Chinese naval ships if war breaks out, unless we have DEI commanders.

Well, the DEI commander problem is a big concern. But as for the ships themselves, I don’t think most people realize how incredibly powerful even a single Arleigh Burke class destroyer is, and we have a lot of them. Depending upon load out, they can attack multiple surface ships, aircraft, incoming ballistic missiles, and even satellites in orbit, and do all of those simultaneously if needed.

27 posted on 09/26/2024 10:27:15 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Delta 21

Good one. Now, do a lead balloon. 😀👍


28 posted on 09/26/2024 11:23:24 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Mark17

Exactly how does a submarine sink???


29 posted on 09/26/2024 11:38:10 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
Exactly how does a submarine sink???

From what I can figure out, this Chinese submarine, sank at the pier, but I can’t find out how deep was the water at the pier. I think the cause, was some catastrophic failure, of some sort. I believe there were casualties.
Do a search for the Thresher and the Scorpion, to learn about those two sinkings.
How did the Germans lose about 935 submarines in WW 2? Depth charges, torpedoes, bombs, scuttling ramming and maybe other causes too.

30 posted on 09/27/2024 4:34:08 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

I was thinking that as well. You would have to get it out of the water. Then all you would have left is a hull. And that hull leaks.


31 posted on 09/27/2024 4:45:36 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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