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Companies Are Quickly Firing Gen Z Employees
Newsweek ^ | Sep 23, 2024 | Suzanne Blake

Posted on 09/24/2024 3:25:20 AM PDT by fwdude

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To: fwdude

“Gaudy tats everywhere, piercings in ungodly places, and purple hair don’t generally fly well in corporate environments.”

Oh, no kidding! What are they THINKING? Saturday we were seated in a restaurant and the waitress for the section had a bunch of tattoos; we asked to be moved, and we were. I know it’s a rash generalization, but I equate tattoos with poor hygiene and low IQ.

And the piercings... just eeeewwww.


41 posted on 09/24/2024 4:37:23 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I'm voting for the convicted felon with the pierced ear. )
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To: Jim Noble
Majoring in 14th century French art (if there is such a thing) gives a person a deep appreciation for our people and our shared European heritage.

It is the anthesis of majoring in Women’s Studies.

Incorrect. Those two are exactly the same.

It can be helpful to take a class or two of 14th Century French Art. But don't major in it unless your goal is to be a professor. And you should research those prospects quite thoroughly.

There is ZERO demand in the real world for French Art majors, just like there is ZERO demand for Women's Studies major.

42 posted on 09/24/2024 4:49:59 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: Justa

“14th Century French Art was actually pretty good. It was just after the Black Death had killed off half of Europe’s population. It was a time of Christian religious rebirth as society reset itself after the plague. Literally Death followed by Life renewed. It was the foundation of the Renaissance.”

Cool.
But how does that directly help a young person know how to clean a floor, change the oil, affix shelving to the wall, know which tool to use to tighten up loose connections, tie the correct knot on the lines, keep track of 4 different cooking items, fill out an inventory sheet, alphabetize records, estimate the tax on an item, count change back on a cash transaction, soothe an irate customer, draft an apology letter, interpret a fake resume, improvise/adapt/overcome a work problem, etc. ??? That is, know HOW TO WORK?

Answer: It doesn’t.

Might as well study 13th century mideastern underwater basket weaving. No, wait, that might actually teach some hand-eye and tool skills.


43 posted on 09/24/2024 4:50:26 AM PDT by Notthemomma ( )
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To: fwdude
They are probably also subtle activists for leftist causes at work.

I doubt they're subtle.

44 posted on 09/24/2024 4:51:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: albie
Majoring in Women’s Studies or 14th Century French Art prepares you for nothing.

This is what really irritates me (actually, it's worse than 'irritates'). Nearly every article, nearly every posting, nearly every podcast (I'm thinking Mike Rowe - whom I like, but is one of the ones that does this) act as though all college degrees are the same. They are not.

The real issue is that high school students are told that they should go to college to 'find their passion' and that good jobs will follow. Instead, they need training beyond college in whatever skills it takes to *get* a good job. For so-called STEM degrees, that probably means college. If you're not going into a STEM curriculum, then you should go learn to be a plumber or an electrician. Then, once you have a good job, you can 'pursue your passion' on your own time and your own nickel.

I have degrees in Physics and Aerospace Engineering, and I had a job from the time I graduated (actually, I little before, I had to take some time off to go back and defend my thesis so my actual graduation was months after I started work) until I retired. College can be a great deal - if you are willing to do the work in a career field that has actual value.
45 posted on 09/24/2024 4:54:05 AM PDT by Phlyer
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To: unclebankster

“The parents never made them seek employment.

“Just ‘study, study, study’.”

You think? I was thinking more along the lines of (what you said), the parents never made them get a job. But my idea was not that they were encouraging kids to study, but instead asking their precious fragile ones, “How can I serve you today, Huunnny?”

We had to study AND we had to work at something. For my brother it was delivering newspapers as a kid. For me, I was picking berries for a farmer at 14.

Anyhow, I guess the youngest Gen Z kids are early teen (or pre-teen). Maybe there’s hope for them. But probably not.


46 posted on 09/24/2024 4:55:35 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I'm voting for the convicted felon with the pierced ear. )
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To: fwdude

Gen Z was “educated” by some of the dumbest “teachers” ever.

On idiot asked me where he could go do “Big Data” analytics without going to a big company that has such data. He wanted a small boutique coffee klatch type of company to go do big data analytics. Gen Z is afraid to step out and engage.


47 posted on 09/24/2024 4:59:42 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

“It would be interesting to see how many Z’s had summer jobs.”

That’s one of the dynamics in that cheap illegal aliens displaced teens at fast food and other places.


48 posted on 09/24/2024 5:02:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Jim Noble
Majoring in 14th century French art (if there is such a thing) gives a person a deep appreciation for our people and our shared European heritage.

It is the anthesis of majoring in Women’s Studies.

Almost as valuable as that degree in underwater basket weaving...

49 posted on 09/24/2024 5:04:00 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The country bounces along like Custer on the way to Little Big Horn, thanks to Dear Leader)
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To: MayflowerMadam

The poster I was responding to, was talking about college graduates who had never had a job before interviewing for their first job.

My “study, study, study” remark was meant for people who only value academics at the expense of other skills.

You obviously did both in your life, which IMO is the best approach.


50 posted on 09/24/2024 5:06:59 AM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: AppyPappy
They are constantly on the hunt to be offended.

That goes well beyond the Gen Zs. You are describing nearly every DEM in this country.

51 posted on 09/24/2024 5:21:32 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: Gnome1949

52 posted on 09/24/2024 5:24:12 AM PDT by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

By the time I entered college I had worked on trays of dried apricots, delivered newspapers, worked a grapeshed, and spent summers working in canneries. I knew the value of a dollar and had some money saved. Today, kids can’t find jobs. They hang around. At college their education is pathetic. Then they go to college and waste money on anti-intellectual crapola. And we expect anything else from them?


53 posted on 09/24/2024 5:25:22 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: ShadowAce

Quite true about the usefulness of an art history degree for research. I did 3 1/2 years of physics and lost it in my senior year on Schroedinger Equations. Dropout in physics at our research university was 90 percent. Took an extra year and a half to graduate in History of Art - Near Eastern Ancient.

My advisor loved describing his Renaissance research. He was identifying the sculptor of the anonymous statues on the outside of an Italian church by meticulously examining the payroll records of a nearby stone quarry to identify where the stone was being cut and sent. No, I was NOT going that route.

I went into computers.

But now that I’m retired, there’s a strange way that fate has laughed at me. I spent over 3 years working with a New Zealand professor to attribute an early 19th century poem by meticulously examining the favored sounds of two possible poets by identifying where those favored sounds moved the tongue in the mouth when reciting aloud.

Fate always wins in the end.

*******

Reality is that incompetents have to be fired because businesses aren’t charities and rely, if not on government, on a free market to profit and reward investors as well as employees. Saying no to bad employees is good for business and good for the employees. It might be a shock education, but if their parents and the liberal education system haven’t trained students for the real world, then the real world will do the training and it won’t be an easy education.

Unfortunately, government will still try to interfere with that education and save those that turn to crime that seems easier than the work environment, or those who salve their hurt egos with drugs to avoid learning from their experiences. Government or liberal charities will pat them on the back and tell them it wasn’t their fault and lead them to our tax money that will let them buy more of the substances that allow them to pretend they didn’t fail and reassure them that it was never their fault anyway.

Sort of funny to think of liberals as fighters against reality.


54 posted on 09/24/2024 5:25:51 AM PDT by mairdie (Trump (I Will Win) - Pavarotti's Nessun Dorma https://youtu.be/MigUKGKr-nQ)
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To: fwdude

“Instead of teaching new hires what they want from them, employers are simply firing workers for not being prepared.”

Imagine hiring a plumber or an electrician for your home, and being expected to give them paid on-the-job training.


55 posted on 09/24/2024 5:26:19 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: COBOL2Java

I am not sure about the pay for those who study underwater basket weaving, but those who study and are good at underwater welding make pretty good money.


56 posted on 09/24/2024 5:26:41 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Notthemomma

“But how does that directly help a young person know how to clean a floor, change the oil...”

I’ll tell you how.

All that can be done within 12 hours.

They gotta eat right? Don’t feed them. Let hunger guide them. It quickens the mind. Put a path in front of them to complete one task. Then another. Then another. One day down. “Are you still alive?” “Well, in the 13th century they had hunger and plague”. Work, live and learn.

Stoicism born out of privation and work is Gen Z’s path out of the communist destruction wrought upon their minds.


57 posted on 09/24/2024 5:27:36 AM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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To: fwdude

I’ve been collecting old, pre1940s technical manuals as a hobby for decades. every single one of these old manuals, whether it’s about plumbing, electrical or mechanics, have one thing in common, they all use very technical language and college level mathamatics but were written for the AVERAGE high school graduate. today’s 3rd year college student would be in over their head trying to struggle through one of these manuals. my how far we have fallen.


58 posted on 09/24/2024 5:27:43 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star)
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To: fwdude
Daily Mail has a take on it - Gen-Zeers don't what to progress to middle management jobs, they don't want to work as part of a team and they show little loyalty to a company - they want to go from bottom to top, salary and status wise, in one swoop. They're into 'quiet quitting' (i.e., silent tantrums) where they put minimal effort into keeping a job. They expect 'to bring their 'whole self' to projects and spend time cultivating their own brand and approach, preferably without ever stepping foot into the company building.

From other articles, they want to participate in how a company is run and who a company can do business with, they want unlimited sick leave and mental health days, a month of paid vacation, free health care, free child care, able to set their own work hours, and just about every other entitlement they can dream up, including paid time off to protest social issues. Any work product would be personal property not proprietary property. In other words, unemployable.

59 posted on 09/24/2024 5:30:29 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Just because you WANT to go to University you can’t unless you pass a series of test. If you don’t pass these test you don’t get in.

These USED to be the SAT and ACT, which were universally required entrance exams at virtually EVERY 4-year college and university, with set minimum score requirements. I'm shock at how many colleges now list these tests as "optional" in applications. We all know why.

60 posted on 09/24/2024 5:35:01 AM PDT by fwdude
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