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NLRB Orders Starbucks to Reopen Two Closed Ithaca Locations
CornellSun ^ | 9/14/24 | Kate Sanders

Posted on 09/14/2024 1:51:14 PM PDT by CFW

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To: Leaning Right

You can’t be against unions. It is a first amendment right. Freedom of association and of assembly.

But, the utility of various unions can and should be called into question. IMHO, most unions should be voluntary and ad hoc. If workers have specific issues, they can nominate some representatives to address the issues with management/owners. Negotiate and resolve them. Then disband.

This professional unionism with mandatory dues taken from pay checks should end - but really that is up to the members to resolve. Particularly the public service unions. But it is not up to me. I will just exercise my 1A rights and say they are not good for the cities, states, countries.

Starbucks being unionized seems like a sick joke. Maybe a shakedown. But it says something about people. They seem to think being a barista is the apex of professional life.


41 posted on 09/14/2024 2:57:03 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: CFW

Paging Supreme Court to the yellow wall phone. I am no fan of Starbucks and it’s fun to watch liberals eat their own. The SCOTUS judgement should affirm the Administrative law “judge” but also require that same “judge” to pay for any and all costs associated with his order, out of his own pocket including any future indirect costs. This way the administrative “judge” can personally feel all the good that his unconstitutional lawmaking is doing.


42 posted on 09/14/2024 3:01:09 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Reality:

Don’t like were you work?
Quit and get a job somewhere else.

Don’t like your spouse? Get a divorce
Don’t like where you live? Move.
Don’t like your car? Sell it.
Quit bitching and be proactive.

Life is frequently unfair. Your choice is to accept it or deal with it.


43 posted on 09/14/2024 3:04:51 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: CFW

Or perhaps NLRB can buy a two store franchise and run it themselves.


44 posted on 09/14/2024 3:08:26 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Asking questions is your right.)
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To: monkeyshine

Open it. Then close it for losing money.


45 posted on 09/14/2024 3:26:32 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: CFW

10-289. Point 2. Point Two. All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor leave nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business, under penalty of the nationalization of their establishment and of any and all of their property.


46 posted on 09/14/2024 3:45:06 PM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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To: CFW
Under federal labor law, businesses are allowed to close completely, even for anti-union reasons. What they can't do is close a location because of unionization, then open up another in the same market without union employees. That's a so-called "runaway shop". But that doesn't seem to be what happened here.

I'd imagine Starbucks will continue to ignore those NLRB orders because they aren't self-enforcing anyway. NLRB has to go to a federal circuit Court of Appeals to get an enforcement order, which apparently hasn't been issued and likely wouldn't be.

47 posted on 09/14/2024 3:49:29 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: The Louiswu

And the owners short the stock and write off the business loss.


48 posted on 09/14/2024 3:53:33 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (They aren't RINO's, they are Democrats. Let's call them what they are and be done with it.)
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To: CFW

Sue their commie asses. Ithaca is the city of hate.


49 posted on 09/14/2024 3:57:23 PM PDT by Eli Kopter
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To: CFW

If you have a business your CEO is your government. It collects a salary. You cannot fire it. It tells you what to do. If you disobey you will be punished.


50 posted on 09/14/2024 3:57:59 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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To: normbal

Reagan was right,fear the words “I work for the Government and I am here to help you.


51 posted on 09/14/2024 4:00:53 PM PDT by Eli Kopter
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To: CFW

Will the NLRB ORDER former employees to return to the Starbucks stores that closed?

This NLRB order is unenforceable.


52 posted on 09/14/2024 4:19:54 PM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: CFW

thats not fascist at all


53 posted on 09/14/2024 4:25:46 PM PDT by joshua c
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To: I want the USA back

I don’t understand the comments on this thread. Are FReepers all going to bat now for Starbucks just because a federal agency went after it? Are you kidding me? Starbucks is as “woke” and “dei” as anything can get. They let the homeless trash their bathrooms with used needles and then sit at a table and order NOTHING. I avoid that place like the plague because of who is/are sitting at those tables. And I can do that because I don’t have a caffeine addiction and don’t drink coffee. Let the feds eat their own garbage.


54 posted on 09/14/2024 5:03:15 PM PDT by 4Runner (America has elected enough lawyer-presidents already. Just stop!)
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To: NFHale

Public serpents.


55 posted on 09/14/2024 5:07:01 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: Leaning Right

If unions are so great, why don’t they start companies and set them up with union employee ownership?


56 posted on 09/14/2024 5:14:28 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (This world is driven by envy, not greed.)
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To: monkeyshine

“...mandatory dues taken from pay checks should end - but really that is up to the members to resolve. Particularly the public service unions. “

It is already illegal to take fees from public employees paychecks unless they agree to join the union. Requiring public employees to join a union or pay agency fees was declared unconstitutional by scotus. See the “Janus” decision of a few years ago.


57 posted on 09/14/2024 5:16:22 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: Nik Naym

Thanks. But let me ask a follow up. As an applicant, will the bosses give you the job if you refuse to join the union?


58 posted on 09/14/2024 5:20:54 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: CFW
National Labor Relations Board Administrative Law Judge Geoffrey Carter ordered Starbucks to reopen

lol
What a buffoon!

59 posted on 09/14/2024 5:22:50 PM PDT by SisterK (it's controlled demolition)
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To: SaxxonWoods

> If unions are so great… <

To be fair, I never said unions were “great”. Instead, it’s a freedom thing. And I’m a believer in checks and balances. A good union can be a check against bad (as in evil) management.

Also, a union is often the only entity that will tell the truth in difficult situations. We see that with the Border Patrol union. All is fine at the border, says Harris. Not really, says the union.

And as a side note, I’m well aware of the corruption and greed in unions. Unions check bad companies. But there are no real checks against bad unions.


60 posted on 09/14/2024 5:31:34 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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