NFRA on the Natural Born Citizen Issue

The Post & Email Newspaper ^ | 27 Aug 2024 | Joseph DeMaio

[4Zoltan]

Harris has one California birth certificate with one certificate number 64-295984.

The certificate was amended (it is stamped AMENDED on the first page) to correct the spelling of her middle name. There is nothing unusual or illegal about that.

[4Zoltan]

So if she was a full-time student and here on a temporary student visa where is the fraud?

[Political Junkie Too]

If you look at the details in the dossier, you will see several potential areas of fraud.

1. She was required to carry a full courseload as a full-time student here on a visa.

2. After the first year, she was carrying a reduced courseload and repeated many classes for the same grade.
   • Fall 1958: 11 units

   • Spring 1959: 12 units

   • Fall 1959: 6 units
     • Repeated NUTR 299 (4 units)

   • Spring 1960: 6 units
     • Repeated NUTR 299 (4 units)

   • Fall 1960: 11 units
     • Repeated NUTR 202 (2 units)

   • Spring 1961: 10 units
     • Repeated NUTR 299 (2 units)
     • Repeated NUTR 212 (2 units)

   • Fall 1961: 10 units
     • Repeated NUTR 299 (8 units)

   • Spring 1962: 12 units
     • Repeated NUTR 299 (7 units)
     • Repeated NUTR 290 (2 units)

   • Fall 1962: 9 units
     • Repeated NUTRSCI 299 (7 units)
     • Repeated NUTRSCI 290 (2 units)

   The only explanation I can think of is perhaps these repeated courses were lab classes.

3. She also declared that she could support herself during her entire stay in the United States, claiming a scholarship of $1,600. One year later, she applied for permission to work because of "economic necessity."

-PJ

[research99]

"The certificate was amended (it is stamped AMENDED on the first page) to correct the spelling of her middle name. There is nothing unusual or illegal about that."

Read again, including the captions, then look at the February 2, 1965 date of the application for the change (3 1/2 months after birth), and ask the big question: "WHY"?

The answer then was: To evade mandatory alien reporting requirements, which were enforced through January 31, 1965, and which by themselves (if evaded) could subject the parents to deportation.

[4Zoltan]

1) full coarse load

If you go to this USCIS webpage

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/foia/Shyamala_Gopalan_Harris.pdf

Scroll down to page 112 of 154 there is a January 1961 report from the Cal Berkeley Registrar informing the Immigration and Naturalization Service that she is considered a full time student because she is taking 6 units and working as a research assistant. The University considered that to be full time.

2) repeating courses.

212 is a seminar
290 is an advance Seminar
299 is a research course

These are usually independent study classes and can be repeated for credit.

This 1961 coarse catalog for the graduate level Nutrition Department shows 290 as an advance seminar that can be taken multiple times for credi.Enter 291 in the box next to “of 437”.

https://digicoll.lib.berkeley.edu/record/1642?ln=en&v=pdf

I don’t see 212 listed but since it is on her official transcripts I would assume the University approved her taken them.

3) working for economic reasons.

Maybe she found out that even in 1959 living in California is more expense than India. Or maybe her master professor or thesis advisor wanted her to do research for them and because she was on a student visa they had to get permission.

It would appear the University was aware of her course work and load and were fine with it. The Immigration Service also didn’t seem to complain.

[4Zoltan]

How does it evade the mandatory requirement (I’m assuming she even had to report but I don’t believe she would have need to report being she was a US citizen)?

Her birthday is still Oct 20, 1964 and her certificate number is still 64-295984. They are not creating a new certificate, they are amending the original certificate and only her middle name on that.

[Political Junkie Too]

That's good to know. I figured it was something like that. I'm not into the fraud theories, I'm more concerned about the domicile / birthright citizenship issues.

-PJ

[research99]

It is necessary for you to read the whole dossier (there are 9 sections), to understand the answers to your own questions.

The middle name "Iyer" was part of the fraud.

It was based on a false name provided for Kamala's maternal grandfather on an official document, which was changed later on another sworn document.

All this proves a pattern of continual fraud relating to US immigration laws, including the illegal birth of Kamala Harris in the US,.

The fraud is what you should be focusing on (instead of asking questions).

[research99]

RE: "Scroll down to page 112 of 154 there is a January 1961 report from the Cal Berkeley Registrar informing the Immigration and Naturalization Service that she is considered a full time student because she is taking 6 units and working as a research assistant. The University considered that to be full time."

Look at the context, that is part of the fraud as well.

Consider, her employment as a research assistant was specifically NOT AUTHORIZED by immigration officials, although it required authorization in advance and was therefore illegal, yet she did it anyways.

In this case, she subsequently manipulated university authorities to correspond with the Immigration service, that her failure to maintain full-time study (as was sworn and required) was excusable.

Now ask how, with her mother cited as her primary influence, does this explain the "character" of Kamala Harris - particularly how she used the manipulation of others - to rise to her current position?

[TeoTBear]

While I agree with you that there are two ways to become a citizen, the courts always used the phrase naturalized and born (see Minor v Happersett). They referred to born using Article II’s natural born, but they also recognized Article I and the powers of Congress. Since the Naturalization act of 1790 a US citizen could be born to US parents overseas based on jus sanguines, the 14th Amendment only codified jus soli into our laws on a permanent basis