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Trumps record on the second amendment
X ^ | Kyle Rittenhouse

Posted on 08/02/2024 4:35:25 AM PDT by frogjerk

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To: DrewsMum

If one remembers George Bush really really wanted to sign an extension of the Clinton gun ban.

He couldn’t because too many of his voters would stay home on election day.

Lots of Republicans are like this; they support the second amendment because they have to get elected, not because they believe in it.


21 posted on 08/02/2024 7:26:30 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: oldtech

I hope you realize that your comment is completely irrelevant to mine.


22 posted on 08/02/2024 7:34:27 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: frogjerk

Well Kyle is entitled to his own opinion but I’m fine with Trump’s record on the 2nd amendment and I’m totally pro gun.


23 posted on 08/02/2024 7:39:48 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: frogjerk

Trump isn’t perfect on Second Amendment. His New York instinct kicks him a little too quickly. But what the hell is someone supposed to do, vote for a communist who literally wants all guns prohibited? Second amendment people have two choices, less than perfect, and absolutely horrific. Time to grow up and get on the team and just do it.


24 posted on 08/02/2024 8:15:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: DrewsMum
Sycophants is a perfect term for some supporters, true across all political lines.

I think people need to always speak up, share diverse opinions respectfully. They count and should always matter.

With President Trump we've seen over and over that he listens and changes direction when people speak up or don't respond.

I've been to four of his events, you miss watching on TV or the computer that sometimes he says something and there's no response, dead silence. He picks up on this, pivots, and re-engages. That's a good skills.

We've seen, recently, in fact, he'll say something, people speak up, and he reverses. Years ago I called him wobbly as it seemed he ran with a view almost reflective of the last person he spoke with. At that time it was immigrant-loving Ivanka.

In any case, we need to speak up when we disagree, when we want a different course.

Lastly, consider H1B. He's constantly telling us he supports American workers, he's railed in the past over importing workers, yet in Trump 1.0, they were not ended, numbers increased, and he even let them stay during COVID when their visas ended when they got laid off. He's still says he supports American workers yet he sat on a panel with Silicon Valley tech CEOs a month ago and told them he'd continue and even increase H1B. Of course we should speak up! And people should respect that.

On the matter of H1B, consider that both Harris and Trump have similar view, keep and increase them. That makes speaking up even more important. I think Vance will help as he's more explicit in opposing importing workers. That said, he's friends with Ramaswammy, so who knows where he'll land.

The point is we should speak up, our candidate serves us, reflects us. So say no to sycophants.

25 posted on 08/02/2024 8:20:39 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Biden's Given His Farewell Address, So When Is He Leaving?)
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To: frogjerk
The Second Amendment would only apply to militia groups if not for judges Trump put on SCOTUS.

Rittenhouse's political IQ is not very high.

26 posted on 08/02/2024 8:34:42 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: DrewsMum

He is wrong. What mattered is the judges Trump nominated to the court, specifically to SCOTUS, which has consistently upheld the Second Amendment.


27 posted on 08/02/2024 8:36:11 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: frogjerk

I’d love to see him try to run this by Ted Nugent or the NRA.


28 posted on 08/02/2024 8:42:51 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: frogjerk

I could easily ignore Trump’s unConservative leanings IF he leaned into his Nationalist tendencies and being adversarial to the surveillance state.

It seems he is leaning away from these tendencies and this worries me but he is still the best chance we have to make America great again.


29 posted on 08/02/2024 8:47:07 AM PDT by nitzy (Everything makes sense once you realize that we don't rule over ourselves and our rulers hate us.)
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To: marktwain
Gee. No mention of the three Supreme Court justices who have upheld the Second Amendment.

I thought the same thing

Same with the pro-lifers, of which I am a part. Trump said he would get rid of Roe v Wade and appointed justices to do it. He got it done. Then you have some pro-lifers complaining about abortion at the national level.

30 posted on 08/02/2024 9:35:23 AM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: Kazan
Rittenhouse's political IQ is not very high.

He is young. I think he is either 20 or 21 years old.

He is getting quite an education.

31 posted on 08/02/2024 11:00:09 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: frogjerk

He’s right that Trump is nowhwere near as good as he could be. He is basically a New Yorker and has been heavily influenced by their media regarding firearms in general.

That said, there is really no valid alternative.


32 posted on 08/02/2024 11:58:34 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: DrewsMum
It’s like we’re trying to lose.

They are. The Republican party hates being in the majority, because then people complain about them making no effort whatsoever regarding the things they falsely claim to the voting public are their 'beliefs' and positions.

'Republicans' hate us almost as much as Democrats do.

33 posted on 08/02/2024 12:02:50 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: odawg

“How can anyone be so self-righteously stupid and hidebound? It must take effort.”

Of course I am voting for Trump. Sorry I didn’t add the /sarcasm tag.


34 posted on 08/03/2024 7:28:28 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Paging Dr. Bandy Lee. Dr. Lee please pick up the white courtesy phone.)
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To: frogjerk

Hey Rippenlouse, MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THE OPPOSITION’S RECORD. @$$WHOLE.


35 posted on 08/03/2024 7:37:21 AM PDT by ZULU (Remember: ABBEY GATE, Kate Steinle, Joscelyn Nungary, Rachel Morin and Laken Riley. )
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To: frogjerk

The bottom line the 2nd amendment is in better hands with Trump than with Kamala. Would not be surprised if this was originally posted by a democrat operative.


36 posted on 08/03/2024 7:49:57 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Of course I am voting for Trump. Sorry I didn’t add the /sarcasm tag.”

I was aware of your intent. My mistake, I was aiming my remark at Rittenhouse.


37 posted on 08/03/2024 8:35:03 AM PDT by odawg
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