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President Biden addresses the nation: ABC News Live
ABC News ^ | July 14, 2024 | President Biden

Posted on 07/14/2024 11:16:44 AM PDT by Reno89519

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To: Zhang Fei

I figured that was the case and the applicable ROE. But the guy is in a restricted/secured area, lying prone, aiming a rifle at the President and the officer is tracking him with a high power scope. Those four strikes justified blowing him to bits BEFORE he fired. Is there no common sense anywhere?


121 posted on 07/14/2024 3:03:29 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: Mr. K

[Some other site had a poster saying the he was asking for authorization to shoot for 45 seconds.

Fog of war.. who know what is the truth]


No one in the chain of command wants to be on the wrong end of a criminal inquiry into a shoot-to-kill snafu. If you lose someone you’re protecting, maybe you lose your job or career. If you kill someone erroneously, maybe you spend decades in prison, lose your pension and go bankrupt after getting sued by the deceased’s kin.

Susan Crabtree on Secret Service policy. Some of this could be based on candidate fear of political blowback, if an innocent gets killed.


[Here’s my reporting on why the Secret Service did not shoot until AFTER the shooter engaged and some context about the House Republicans’ investigation already underway (months before Trump’s assassination attempt) into whether the agency’s DEI policies are affecting its readiness.
The blowback against the Secret Service started within the hour of the assassination attempt and continued even after Trump and other credited the agency with saving Trump’s life by quickly killing a shooter crawling across a nearby rooftop.

But a source within the Secret Service community tells RealClearPolitics that the agency rules of engagement in this situation are to wait until the president is fired upon to return fire.

“You want to take a shot then find out the guy was holding a telescope?” the source suggested. “The Secret Service is by nature reactive…and you better be right when you do react or you’re f-——d.”

The Secret Service protocol requires that a counter sniper aware of a potential shooter to radio directly to intelligence division team to respond and investigate. In this case, the investigation may have been cut short by the shooter firing his weapon, so the counter sniper then fired as quickly as possible in return.

The source praised the counter sniper who acquired the target and responded within three seconds, calling their performance “incredible.”

“The counter snipers are highly trained and extremely accurate,” he said.]


From the cop’s standpoint, it makes sense. Thanks to Floyd, we’ve seen a violent felon’s death from drug overdose send four cops to prison for multiple decades each, while sending their families into bankruptcy. Putting a civilian down who turned out not to be an assassin could have catastrophic personal consequences. Qualified immunity is not a theoretical issue to a police sniper, given the generally lethal or catastrophically injurious nature of what they are tasked with doing.


122 posted on 07/14/2024 3:26:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Yep.


123 posted on 07/14/2024 3:37:28 PM PDT by right way right (“May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope”)
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To: Mr. K

Did they assassinate the assassin?


Don’t they always?


124 posted on 07/14/2024 4:53:40 PM PDT by coalminersson
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To: dangus

“Shouldn’t TRUMP be the one whose address to the nation gets covered?”

It most certainly will be covered.


125 posted on 07/14/2024 8:03:24 PM PDT by TexasGator
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