Russian Missile Identified in Kyiv Children’s Hospital Attack

Bellingcat ^ | July 9, 2024 | Michael Sheldon, Gincarlo Fiorella, Jake Godin

[stockpirate]

Another Gulf of Tonkin incident, fake deep state propaganda then just like it is now.

In other words I do not believe it

[DesertRhino]

lol, you don’t trust an analyses by Bellingcat, using “evidence” provided by the SBU secret police?

[logi_cal869]

Good question. Regardless, the images of the missile in terminal phase are fake.

Framerate, resolution...for that field of view: Nope. Not possible unless the ukes are aiming hi-res/hi-speed cameras in clear air fishing for a missile hit to use the images later.

Unnecessary work for an event which is indisputable, but such is this conflict.

Lousy work, in fact.

[Who is John Galt?]

[adorno]

A terrorist country, like Russia, will absolutely target civilian hospitals and civilian infrastructure. Children’s hospitals are prime targets, all the more to strike terror on the fathers and mothers who want to protect their kids, and might even want their country to surrender in order to stop the killing. Terrorists don’t care and will do anything and everything to get their way. Putin is a terrorist in the highest degree, and Al-Qaeda and ISIS are amateurs in comparison.

[mac_truck]

There’s an inquiry with Norway right now. It was their hardware.

Concurring bump...I also heard it was a Norwegian NASAMS missile defense system mishap.

[tlozo]

Framerate, resolution...for that field of view: Nope. Not possible unless the ukes are aiming hi-res/hi-speed cameras

Right, no phone in the civilian market has hi-res and could have possibly recorded that video. Okay

[tlozo]

Concurring bump...I also heard it was a Norwegian NASAMS missile defense system mishap.

Yup, you both heard it on Sputnik. Okay

[Chad C. Mulligan]

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

[mac_truck]

🧐

[tlozo]

A terrorist country, like Russia, will absolutely target civilian hospitals and civilian infrastructure.

Yup, in the Syrian War, Doctors Without Borders stopped giving the Russians the gps locations of their hospitals in rebel controlled areas, after the Russians deliberately targeted them.

MSF stops sharing Syria hospital locations after 'deliberate' attacks - Feb 2016

Médecins Sans Frontières believes giving GPS coordinates of its facilities to Assad and Russian forces increases chance of direct targeting

Hospitals in opposition-held parts of Syria are refusing to share GPS coordinates with Russian and Syrian authorities because of repeated attacks on medical facilities and workers, Médecins Sans Frontières and humanitarian workers on the ground have said.

International charity MSF said it took the decision not to formally inform Syria’s government or its Russian allies about the location of some medical facilities, such as the one hit by a deadly airstrike this week, amid concerns that doing so could make them targets.

Joanne Liu, MSF International president, told reporters in Geneva that deliberate attacks on civilian infrastructures were routine. “Healthcare in Syria is in the crosshair of bombs and missiles. It has collapsed,” Liu said. “Let me be clear: attacks on civilians and hospitals must stop. The normalisation of such attacks is intolerable.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/18/msf-will-not-share-syria-gps-locations-after-deliberate-attacks

[logi_cal869]

Using your tack...

Cite ONE with the framerate to catch a clean grab of a missile at minimum terminal velocity.

ONE.

I don’t fault you for being an ignoramus, such is your role as troll.

[tlozo]

🧐

Right, and where in your picture is the protruding rear jet engine that is visible on the hospital destroying missile?

[tlozo]

Cite ONE with the framerate to catch a clean grab of a missile at minimum terminal velocity.

Mobile phones with 8K video recording

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mobile_phones_with_8K_video_recording

[tlozo]

Fabian Hoffmann @FRHoffmann1

Doctoral Research Fellow @NuclearOslo @UniOslo . Defense policy, missile technology, and nuclear strategy. Views are strictly my own. Oslo, Norway

Enhanced resolution video imagery once again and very clearly demonstrating that the missile is a 🇷🇺 Kh-101. Why?

- Highly visible TRDD-50A turbofan engine (rear section)

- Two relatively long wings (mid section)

- blunted nose (top section)

https://x.com/FRHoffmann1/status/1810350033616732653

Here’s a quick analysis of the AIM-120 warhead, as many have been asking about it.

The AIM-120 features a WDU-33/B or WDU-41/B blast-fragmentation warhead, designed to destroy soft-skinned airborne targets such as aircraft, cruise missiles, and long-range drones. The weight of the warhead differs by AIM-120 variant:

- AIM-120A/B/C (up to C-3) (WDU-33/B): 22.7 kg (50 lb)

- AIM-120 C-4/C-5 (WDU-41/B): 18.1 kg (40 lb) -

Not all of the warhead's mass consists of high explosives. In fact, the majority of its weight is made up of fragmentable material.

The amount of actual high explosives is as follows:

- AIM-120A/B/C (up to C-3): 7.66 kg (16.9 lb) of explosives

- AIM-120 C-4/C-5: 8.61 kg (19 lb) of explosives

Why? Because the lethality of this type of warhead relies less on the kinetic energy of the explosion's overpressure shockwave and more on the kinetic energy of the fragments it projects outward.

This warhead is effective in air-to-air combat because the kinetic energy of its fragments dissipates more slowly than that of the overpressure shockwave. As a result, and depending on the size and direction of the fragment cloud, the warhead can remain highly lethal, even in near-miss scenarios.

However, the limited amount of explosives and resulting fragments are absolutely ineffective against large concrete structures.

A warhead with 7.66-8.61 kg of high explosives, optimized for destroying soft-skinned vehicles through fragmentation effects, could not create the damage pattern observed at the hospital.

In contrast, a ~400 kg Kh-101 warhead

https://x.com/FRHoffmann1/status/1810978211498508381?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[logi_cal869]

Pathetic, and quite lazy.

ROFLMAO.

Try again.

Fake images.

[tlozo]

Pathetic, and quite lazy. ROFLMAO. Try again. Fake images.

LOL, keep reading Russian Sputnik.

[FtrPilot]

NASAMs fire an Aim-120 missile which has a 20kg blast/fragmentation warhead. The missile is designed to shoot down aerial targets. The HE in the warhead probably weighs around 10kg.

The newest version of the kh-101 missile has an 800kg warhead.

Bottom line is there is no way 10kg of HE can do the damage pictured below.

[McGruff]

Looks more like one of these.

[popdonnelly]

What makes you think it was deliberate? In total, the number of Ukrainian civilian deaths far exceeds those of Russians. But Russia has better propagandists.