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13 hospitalized after Korean Air flight’s rapid 26,900-foot descent
AeroTime ^ | 6.25.2024 | JEAN CARMELA LIM

Posted on 06/25/2024 1:02:03 PM PDT by libh8er

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To: dayglored

Leave Taylor alone!

41 posted on 06/25/2024 4:13:48 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: DennisR

I have not spoken to him about his concerns, so I can only voice my own knowledge:

On the basis of research I’ve performed since beginning what was supposed to be a short article almost 10 years ago - and after reading hundreds of NTSB incident reports, not exclusive to fatal crashes - I concluded that failure to at least avoid certain airlines and aircraft types is astonishingly ignorant, notwithstanding the fact that what’s happening with Boeing/FAA right now would be a glaring red flag for a normally intelligent person...


42 posted on 06/25/2024 4:25:59 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: C210N

I won’t argue with that. But I assume you aren’t hiring a pilot and renting the plane.

I’ve only flown by airline on 4 trips, all since 2011. It’s a bummer not being able to see the panel or out the front windshield.


43 posted on 06/25/2024 4:26:48 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

20 mph STRAIGHT DOWN, vertical drop, not highway speed. Might feel more like 200 mph. Think falling from a first floor window - in one second. Nine hundred times over and over!


44 posted on 06/25/2024 4:55:29 PM PDT by libertarian66
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To: libh8er

Are any technical details on this incident yet available?


45 posted on 06/25/2024 5:24:18 PM PDT by Revel
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To: libertarian66
I'm a pilot and have experienced plenty of these myself doing stalls as part of spin prevention training. If you are not accelerating, upward or downward, it doesn't feel like anything. Some very tall building elevators ascend and descend faster than 20 mph and there aren't injuries or pools of puke that have to be constantly cleaned up.
46 posted on 06/25/2024 7:05:41 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: cgbg; logi_cal869

I beg to differ:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft_in_the_United_States

To summarize, there have been 10 deaths (excluding 9/11, of course) due to Boeing commercial aircraft since 2000. Every one of these deaths was caused by human error. In that same time period, there were probably 750,000 deaths due to automobile deaths.

By the way, there are over 10,000 Boeing aircraft in service right now. How many are just dropping out of the sky daily? None? And I believe a 737 takes off every 30 seconds.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/worried-about-flying-heres-what-the-experts-have-to-say/index.html

So, do you still agree with “It is astonishingly safe.” If you disagree, why?


47 posted on 06/25/2024 7:15:40 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist .)
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To: cgbg; logi_cal869

Sorry - I should have prefaced that with “domestic aircraft incidents.”


48 posted on 06/25/2024 7:20:14 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist .)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Yep, in a free fall you’re weightless after a moment or two of 1G acceleration.

(I did some spins in a Citabria which were exciting)

According to the article, the airliner was descending at 2,000 feet per minute which is sedate compared to say 13,000 feet per minute in a free fall.


49 posted on 06/25/2024 7:30:29 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: DennisR
To summarize, there have been 10 deaths (excluding 9/11, of course) due to Boeing commercial aircraft since 2000.

They lost a couple hundred in just the two Max crashes, so you might want to go back and count again.

50 posted on 06/25/2024 7:50:15 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: C210N

“Well, that’s 1800 feet per minute. For a vertical velocity, that’s up there”

I use two thousand feet a minute all the time descending from cruise altitude. An emergency descent is usually more than four thousand feet per minute.


51 posted on 06/25/2024 8:07:10 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: Henchster

My data was on domestic, nor foreign, accidents.


52 posted on 06/25/2024 8:21:55 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist .)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Ok…so explain the chaos on board the aircraft then? Is that because the plane would descend at crazy angles, multiple planes etc? Like an elevator would have a smooth downward trajectory, one direction in one plane. Geometric plane, not airplane!


53 posted on 06/26/2024 7:08:39 AM PDT by libertarian66
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To: Thrownatbirth

LOL!


54 posted on 06/26/2024 11:17:25 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Zuriel

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 for originality!


55 posted on 06/26/2024 11:18:16 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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