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U.S. Navy’s Cruiser Countdown The U.S. Navy’s cruisers will all be gone before 2027 is over. Here’s the order in which they’ll go.
https://www.navalnews.com/cavasships/2024/06/u-s-navys-cruiser-countdown/ ^ | 6/9/24 | Chis Cavas

Posted on 06/09/2024 8:20:05 PM PDT by hardspunned

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To: Rockingham

My problem is that every military disaster in history starts with overconfidence.

Overconfidence and underestimating the enemy.

In China, the USA faces an opponent that has approx five times the population and ten times the output on military critical items such as steel.

200 times the Navy shipyard capacity, and a technological lead and actualy deployed weapons in surface vessel destroyers such as hypersonics.

The US Navy can’t even deal with a terrorist group blockading the Suez Canal, the US is buying shell production equipment from the Turks because they can’t do it quickly themselves, hasn’t produced a new tank hull in 30 years, and can’t fully crew its aircraft carriers.

And the problem is that the bubble of NeoCon overconfidence doesn’t see any of this, or doesn’t care, or explains how China will collapse the minute the population can’t get pork.

It’s just insane to me that your “experts” project peacetime behaviours on a wartime population.

For example, if the electric power is constantly out, people get mad at the gov’t and utility companies.

If the power is out because the ccountry it is being bombed, the reaction is totally different.

And somehow the NeoCons, or whoever is, who is producing this stuff, just can’t seem to realize that the reaction of the Chinese to a hostile Regime which is trying to destroy the country and starve them into submission is going to be the same as every other country. Probably more.

Canada gets dragged into US failed wars via NATO, and via a Pacific War that won’t magically stop at the 49th parallel. We have our own problems with internal Chinese subversion, but that problem is not solved by joining a disastrous overseas war.


101 posted on 06/11/2024 5:23:14 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright
Experts can be wrong, but their views merit serious consideration because they have studied a particular subject for years, often decades. Ultimately, facts matter, not whether an expert is confident, overconfident, or timorous. And China's vulnerability to naval blockade is a matter of established fact.
102 posted on 06/11/2024 5:52:09 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Reverend Wright
USA can’t deal with the Houthis but can take out China no problem.

The only other place I see this Leftist-stype doublethink is Ukraine - where Russia is on the verge of defeat and collapse, but is also a threat to invade and occupy the whole of Europe !


Huh? I explicitly said these US could take any of those, if we actually tried to. But we're not. I never said we can't eliminate them.

And I've said several times (even before they invaded) that Russia was no threat to us - they're a local land power, with a pile of rusty nukes that probably can't even make it in the air but for a couple of them.
103 posted on 06/12/2024 11:31:51 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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