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Ukraine’s Maginot Line is about to crumble
The Telegraph via Yahoo ^ | May 17th, 2024 | Robert Clark

Posted on 05/17/2024 4:27:50 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: freeandfreezing

Doesn’t matter to the usuals, every “success “ even relatively small ones at great costs are reincarnations of battle of Kursk and relief of siege of Stalingrad. Bakmut was equal to taking of Berlin.

After two years the Russians still don’t control, not even close, the territory they originally occupied. Even the glorious offensive in the north has not retaken what they had 2 years ago.

It is fun to see their spin.

As always time will tell. IMO, muskovites are not acting as if everything is going according to plan. We will see


21 posted on 05/18/2024 4:50:13 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: Mariner

They walked across a no mans land. UKR had only a small groups of troops because it is not possible to defend that area due to the flat terrain. 5-10km past the grey zone is the 1st UKR main defense line.

The Russian cannot hold the land they crossed because they cannot be resupplied, as UKR has fire control over it.

During recent combat the Russians suffered the usual heavy loses of men and armor. Mostly due to UKR artillerry and drones. After a week of fighting, the Russians only reached 2 areas near the small towns Vovchansk and Bugruvatka.

The troops stationed in the grey zone did a fighting retreat in good order, as reinforcements were brought up to the main defense lines.

As Putin said yesterday, they have no plans to take Kharkiv


22 posted on 05/18/2024 5:36:24 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: CapandBall

Left over from the first invasion by Russia. Little teeth are a hallmark of Russian construction.


23 posted on 05/18/2024 5:38:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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If that was left over Russian supplies... why didn’t Ukraine use them for their own defensive purposes?
It was free material, easily accessible and could have added to their defense lines.
But yet there they are still piled alongside the road.
That doesn’t make any sense


24 posted on 05/22/2024 12:05:49 PM PDT by VetoBill
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If that was left over Russian supplies.

Please elaborate - I mentioned nothing about UKR troops gathering Russian supplies left behind.


25 posted on 05/22/2024 12:13:55 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: blitz128
Published by the Washington Post 8 years ago as

"This is the One Map You Need to Understand Ukraine's Crisis"

It probably still is.

The extent of Russia's ambitions to seize territory probably roughly line up with the blue areas.

That doesn't mean they will end up with all of that, but that's probably what their real end goal is.


26 posted on 05/24/2024 2:13:53 PM PDT by Vlad0
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