US Navy too slow, too outdated to match China’s surging fleet

Asia Times ^ | 5/9/24 | Gabriel

[BobL]

“I don’t have much confidence in a navy that’s run by The View.”

Agree, and that is EXACTLY WHY we shouldn’t have tried taking on Russia over Ukraine. Even though a bunch of Operatives here ‘claim’ otherwise, today’s NATO military is NOT Reagan’s military, and Russia’s 2022+ military is NOT Russia’s 1990s military...as we are now seeing on a daily basis in Ukraine.

[TwelveOfTwenty]

What did we think would happen when we sent our manufacturing, technology, money, and tax base to China.

I seem to be asking that a lot lately, but how could we have seriously thought that would be a good idea?

[daniel1212]

Another useful thing may be searching it in terms of dollars to get an idea of exactly what it is that is being manufactured.

Did I include this?

LTSG, a defense consultancy, states that

Research into Chinese defense investments since 2000 reveals that, compared with the United States, China has prioritized purchasing weapons and equipment over spending on personnel salaries or on operations and maintenance. As a result, the U.S. military is on track to be outgunned — potentially in quantity and quality of armaments — by the end of President Joe Biden’s first term. The lack of data on Chinese defense spending reflects the notorious unreliability of official releases from Beijing. Annual People’s Republic of China Finance Ministry announcements of the defense budget diverge from Defense Ministry disclosures, and have historically omitted cost categories that other countries include, such as weapons imports.

To address this challenge, LTSG research group conducted a multiyear, open-source effort to estimate Chinese defense spending since 2000 by service across different categories such as personnel, operations and maintenance, and procurement...For procurement, U.S. dollar estimates were converted to renminbi. The results showed consistent annual inflation-adjusted growth of roughly 10 percent for the past 20 years..If, as projected, by 2024 the PLA’s annual procurement value exceeds that of the U.S. military, then by about 2030 the United States will no longer boast the world’s most advanced fighting force in total inventory value.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-china-watcher/2021/05/27/china-could-soon-outgun-the-us-493014

And besides procurement costs,

The official defense budget does not account for all of China’s military-related activities. For example, many defense-related outlays fall directly under the Central Military Commission (CMC), China’s highest military authority, chaired by Xi Jinping. For instance, the People’s Armed Police (PAP), a paramilitary force charged with maintaining internal security and supporting the military in times of war, is under the command of the CMC but not included in the budget. The Chinese Coast Guard, which plays a key role in asserting China’s maritime claims and was placed under the control of the PAP in 2018, is likewise excluded from the official budget.

According to SIPRI, China’s military spending far exceeds that of its neighbors and was greater than the combined expenditure of India, Russia, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan in 2019. Cross-national comparisons are insightful, but accounting for variations in prices is difficult. For example, the current annual pay for an entry-level active-duty U.S. soldier (about $39,600) would likely cover the cost of several PLA soldiers due to price differences. When adjusted for purchasing power parity (PPP), China’s 2019 defense expenditure rises by well over $100 billion. - https://www.csis.org/analysis/understanding-chinas-2021-defense-budget

[MAGA2017]

But we have more diversity.

[guest7]

"China is putting out 232 ships to the US 1."

Yeah but, what happens when they put them into the water?

Like that other guy said, "Tofu Drudge" /s

[hillarys cankles]

My Son and his Shipmates would disagree.

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Unfortunately all you have to do is read the NAVY TIMES to see that your son is wrong. And trust me, as an ex squid, it pains me to no end to see the NAVY that I have always loved descend into woke hell. Its the reason pretty much all of the shipmates i know got out after 1 or 2 enlistments.

[hillarys cankles]

today’s pro China nonsense.

The Chinese are advanced ship builders!

Day 1002 of no Taiwan takeover despite being promised such dozens of times.

Day 26 still no follow up to the obv fake Irannian attack.

Week 2 no nukes that maybe were going to be launched last week.

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And your post will continue to be true, until its finally not true.

This country will eventually deal with everything you listed. Might not be tormorrow or next year. But it will happen.