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Ukraine can’t hold lines without ‘rapid resumption’ of US aid: Think tank
The Hill ^ | 04/17/2024 | BRAD DRESS

Posted on 04/17/2024 9:26:29 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

“...highlighting the dire situation Kyiv is in while Congress debates sending more weapons.”

No, getting MORE MONEY from US taxpayers - the weapons won’t arrive for another 18 months, at best, as we’re spent (kind of thing happens when you run around the world starting wars).


41 posted on 04/17/2024 11:24:00 AM PDT by BobL (A society built on MERIT cannot survive on DEI (ref. South Africa, and now USA))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“institute for the study of war?? Are they getting a cut?? (s)”

Considering they’re funded by the Neocons, both directly and via laundering through Big Aero, I’d say so.


42 posted on 04/17/2024 11:25:27 AM PDT by BobL (A society built on MERIT cannot survive on DEI (ref. South Africa, and now USA))
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To: Kazan
The illegal coup in 2014 that we helped fomented threw out a President that the vast majority voted for in Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk.

Convenient that you leave out why the population rose up against Yanukovych. He was elected supporting an EU/Ukrainian agreement. But he yielded to Russian pressure, repudiated the deal that he had previously supported and had been approved by the parliament, and sought to bind Ukraine to an economic union with Russia. The popular protests against him did not need CIA encouragement. And then when the people went to the streets to protest, he used force to quell those protest. Yanukovych was not acting any like sort of democrat. Nor was he removed by the CIA, but by the democratically elected parliament.

Granted that the action by the parliament was constitutionally doubtful — although an argument can be made for it — it did not justify the Russian invasion of Crimea and Donbas. There could have been a political solution. The Russian invasion, however, forestalled that. There was an election afterwards, but again, it was the Russian occupation that prevented the citizens of Crimea and Donbas from participating in it.

It resulted in the ethnic Russian population in those regions being persecuted and murdered by Ukrainian nationalists and neo-Nazis.

How long are you going to push that lie? Even the statistics provided by the two so-called republics of Luhansk and Donetsk do not support that allegation.

There isn't anyone living in those regions doesn't feel liberated.

Does that include the 60% of the Donbas population that is Ukrainian? And what of the populations of Kherson that is 82% Ukrainian and of Zaporizhzhia that is 71% Ukrainian. And don't quote me those phony referenda that were conducted by the Russians.

43 posted on 04/17/2024 11:55:07 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Darksheare

They never have held the lines.


44 posted on 04/17/2024 12:04:01 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

ISW is just globalist neocon propaganda.
worst of the worst.


45 posted on 04/17/2024 12:26:06 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Ukraine can’t hold lines without ‘rapid resumption’ of US aid? This is true.

Also true -- Ukraine can’t hold lines *with* ‘rapid resumption’ of US aid.

46 posted on 04/17/2024 12:53:09 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Funny, who spam posts absolute propaganda and gloats?
Hmmm.. that’d be the zeepers.
Point out what I’ve posted.
Please, link the thread.


47 posted on 04/17/2024 1:18:03 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: caww

I know.
But the cheerleaders who love corrupt graft don’t seem to know or care.


48 posted on 04/17/2024 1:18:50 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Darksheare

Don’t worry about it. The oligarchs in Ukraine will take their money to flee to Western Europe when Russia wins the war.


49 posted on 04/17/2024 1:21:01 PM PDT by Pol-92064
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To: Pol-92064

When that day rolls around, the cheerleaders will shriek at everyone else that it’s our fault, not the fault of the corrupt idiots who started the mess to begin with.
Unless Biden makes it so that opposing it is illegal and dissent is forbidden.


50 posted on 04/17/2024 1:25:11 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: politicket
I stated that Ukraine leads the world in stealing credit card info and selling it on the dark web.

And how is it that you are so sure of this? You in that business yourself?

Reports I have noticed in passing say that credit card rings active in Ukraine fell off a cliff since 2019.

On the other hand....

https://therecord.media/bidencash-2million-credit-cards-cybercrime-market

and....

https://www.voanews.com/a/us-charges-russian-national-shutters-stolen-credit-card-network/7077533.html

51 posted on 04/17/2024 1:53:54 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
You in that business yourself?

Actually, yes I am. In cybersecurity.

52 posted on 04/17/2024 1:59:17 PM PDT by politicket
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To: Petrosius

Well done, Petrosius. Not that any of the hatemongers here will be moved by facts. They’d rather hate than think.


53 posted on 04/17/2024 2:02:48 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: politicket
Actually, yes I am. In cybersecurity.

Right, and I operate a billion-dollar hedge fund. See how that works?

54 posted on 04/17/2024 2:05:50 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
Right, and I operate a billion-dollar hedge fund

Whatever you want to believe champ - I tell it like it is...

55 posted on 04/17/2024 2:40:52 PM PDT by politicket
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To: Petrosius

What is the problem with surrender? Why should a winner compromise?


56 posted on 04/17/2024 10:57:13 PM PDT by NorseViking
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