Why yes, a forced passport by a commie government isn't much of a stretch.
Posted on 03/15/2024 3:12:26 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
Expect the same again.
It’s not occupied. It’s fully annexed and part off Russia now. The Duma even voted on it. Crimea also.
Sounds like someone is still in the denial phase lol.
Right on time.
Only Moscow thinks it’s annexed. No other nation does.
“It’s not occupied. It’s fully annexed and part off Russia now. The Duma even voted on it. Crimea also.”
There is a REASON why Victoria Nuland is gone. She very likely PROMISED her fellow Neocons that her goons in Ukraine would take Donbass and then take Crimea, and rid those areas of those pesky Ruzzians one way or another (drive them into Russia-proper, or take the Bandera Approach and simply exterminate them). Plus, of course, seize the Sevastopol Naval Base.
Neither happened, and now Russia is enlarged and STRONGER than ever.
The Muskovites remain the barbarians they have always been.
The first few words of that article reminded of the Kovid Krap we went through, most of the country fell for it happily, that’s the difference.
Alsace and Lorraine (formerly German speaking parts of France) were “fully annexed” parts of Germany, twice. They are not German now, and the language which was so prevalent is now secondary at best. It took 74 years and three wars to settle that particular dispute.
Regardless of who wins the current conflict, Russia and Ukraine will continue to spar over this territory. Too many FReepers think this is a contest between corrupt leaders. But it’s not, if past experience is any guide, Mr. Putin’s adventure has created a deep seated enmity that will grip the Ukrainian people in ways the neither they, he or Russian people will completely understand for years. If they lose this war, there will be at a minimum an insurgency, a nasty bloody affair to bleed Russia by a thousand cuts.
Additionally, any victory will not likely survive long after Mr. Putin’s eventual death. Therefore the Duma’s rubber stamp is meaningless, this question will be settled by force of arms. Which may take decades.
The apophenia is strong here....
I smell fake news.
Vasilisa Stepanenko is a Ukrainian journalist and video producer. In 2023, she shared the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service with Evgeniy Maloletka, Mstyslav Chernov, and Lori Hinnant for her work with the Associated Press covering the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
They wouldn’t have voted to secede if they didn’t want Russia’s protection
That is a bad analogy given the Crimea was very much Russian for more than 150 years, from before Texas was a state, for comparison. It was only made part of the Ukraine SSR as part of the USSR in the 1950s, because Khrushchev was from Ukraine and was calling the shots in the USSR, and made that administrative change.
Fancy, sesquipedalian non-argument.
ALL is subsumed under the larger rubrics of government and debt.
The current US government, post-Nuland, is still Biden's administration in all its activities and foci and expenditures, of which the Ukraine-Russia war is one among many. And the current US debt is rising very rapidly. 34.5 trillion USD, because the nation and its economy are now operating on a gigantic credit card.
Debt ClockAn earlier comment by 'drop 50 and fire for effect' observed, "...this question will be settled by force of arms. Which may take decades."
Attrition in troop strength is akin to attrition in war materiel, and both are akin to economic health and demographics. Many sick men doing battle does portend all will be settled and "may take decades" looms as a distinct possibility.
Tick tock.
They didn't. If you believe that those were fair referenda then you must also believe in the Easter Bunny.
Still pushing that nonsense? It didn't happen.
So was Poland. Crimea did not have a Russian majority until, in an act of ethnic cleansing, Stalin expelled the native Tartar population and replaced them with Russians. But what do you have to say about the other territories which have majority Ukrainian populations and have been recognized as a part of Ukraine since the time of Lenin?
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Strong infection here, too. What the heck does ANY of what you posted have to do with the subject of the article?
No-one outside Moscow and its' sycophants thinks that those "elections" were free and fair.
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." as some famous Russian dictator once said.
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