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Wiretapped: Germany Again Appears to Reveal NATO Troops Active in Ukraine in Leak
Breitbart ^ | 03/04/2024 | OLIVER JJ LANE

Posted on 03/04/2024 9:59:51 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: jacknhoo

You see the problem. The CIA, Has been setting up enterprise to fund things so they can continue their nefarious works and congress cutting off money wouldn’t effect what they do. They set up a system where they can operate without congressional funding.


61 posted on 03/04/2024 5:15:48 PM PST by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: Secret Agent Man

What can us dumb kulaks do. Nothing. We just need to sit back and wait for our execution. 😜


62 posted on 03/04/2024 5:45:59 PM PST by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: Darksheare

That was already there, latent. The Arab public hated their leadership, in Libya, Egypt, Syria. This goes back decades. These were despotisms.

That wasnt the case in Ukraine, until Yanukovich self-destructed.


63 posted on 03/04/2024 6:05:04 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

And Obama stirred it up didn’t he.
Yes, yes he did.


64 posted on 03/04/2024 6:06:39 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Darksheare

Stirred up Ukraine?
Nobody on the outside had to. Yanukovich did it all by himself.
Did Obama get him to overnight reverse the EU membership process? That was a shock.
What did the US have to do beyond that, the Maidan?
Yanukovich had already lost all political support before anyone bothered protesting it. What kicked Yanukovich out was votes by the Rada.


65 posted on 03/04/2024 7:05:25 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: x

Looney Lyndon LaRouche— now there’s a name not heard much anymore. One whacked dude. Maybe he finally died. But his people are here and there, or at least his looney ideas.


66 posted on 03/04/2024 8:22:41 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: buwaya

Ever heard of Victoria Nuland?
You should.


67 posted on 03/04/2024 8:24:46 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I thought the Bundeswehr burned all their maps showing the way to Kiev.


68 posted on 03/04/2024 8:28:10 PM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Darksheare

Yes. She could do nothing if the locals were not already inclined to her agenda.
Which was the point. Her idea was to “nudge” things in the direction they were already raring to go.

There is nothing magical here.

If you want an example, I was myself involved in the very first “color revolution” - our color was yellow, the takedown of the Marcos dictatorship. We had some aid and sympathy from the CIA and some members of Congress. But the Filipino people were thoroughly disgusted by their government, and every move there was self organised. I should know, I was one of the organisers, 1983-86.


69 posted on 03/04/2024 10:20:03 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

She was the pot stirrer for Libya, Egypt, Syria, and Ukraine.


70 posted on 03/05/2024 12:53:42 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Reverend Wright

I think the pay off will be worse than that.


71 posted on 03/05/2024 1:07:10 AM PST by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: Darksheare

The first three were pots that had been simmering for decades. All of them needed a truly tyrannical mob to keep the lid on.

Interestingly the incident that kicked it all off was in Tunisia (look it up), a truly random event, that nobody could engineer. And Tunisia didnt blow up, because it was not one of those simmering pots.

And neither was Ukraine. Ukraines problem, as I told you many times, was an immediate political crisis created by the President of Ukraine. With the help of Putins payoffs no doubt. No simmering pot.

You ascribe too much in the way of sinister powers to people that dont have much of anything but a line of BS.


72 posted on 03/05/2024 2:20:03 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

By your own admission all the pots mentioned were simmering.
Obama just did the regime change.


73 posted on 03/05/2024 2:46:57 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Darksheare

The three Arab countries were simmering pressure cookers.
Ukraine wasn’t, that went from 0-100 in hours.

21 Nov 2013 Yuschenko pulls the plug on the EU application, says Ukraine is going with Russia instead. A vastly unpopular move, seen as a betrayal.

night of Nov 2013 Protests begin in Kiev (Maidan).

Protests continue from then till about Feb 21 2014

24 Feb 2014 Yuschenko flees


74 posted on 03/05/2024 2:59:22 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

All 4 by your admission were.


75 posted on 03/05/2024 3:01:45 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Darksheare

Its Yanukovych not Yuschenko.

If it isnt names like Etxebarrietaaltaleorraga or Pagatzaurtunduagoienengoa I get mixed up :)


76 posted on 03/05/2024 3:04:53 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Darksheare

No, I am not “admitting” anything, I am explaining.
Ukraine was a very different case.


77 posted on 03/05/2024 3:06:35 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: canuck_conservative

“ Right now he’s got squat, he doesn’t even want to talk about the war during the campaign, and Russian TV refuses to discuss it also”

Is it my imagination or was it only about 1/2 a year ago a bunch of Zeepers were saying he was dying of cancer?

Seems dis-info is coming from both sides..and has been since day one.


78 posted on 03/05/2024 3:41:41 AM PST by Phoenix8 (Y 1.)
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To: buwaya

Yes, yes you did.


79 posted on 03/05/2024 1:23:23 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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