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NEW: Trump posts 8th Amendment forbidding 'excessive fines' after $354 million ruling against him
The Post Millennial ^ | February 20, 2024 | Staff

Posted on 02/21/2024 7:20:38 AM PST by Twotone

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To: Twotone

Thought obama did away with the Constitution.


21 posted on 02/21/2024 9:20:16 AM PST by bgill
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To: Twotone
I predict New York's next target: auction houses!

President Trump has said in the past that he has "brand value" that makes Trump properties more valuable just because it's a Trump property.

As a case in point, in 2015 John Lennon's 1962 J-160E Gibson acoustic guitar was sold at an auction in Beverly Hills, California for $2.41 million. The catalog price for that guitar in 1964 was $219.50 and the current value of one in excellent condition is $4,000.

If I had owned that guitar in 2015 and chose not to auction it and instead used it as collateral for a loan claiming a value of $2.5 million, would Letitia James sue me because the real value of the guitar is $4,000?

Does John Lennon's "brand" add $2 million to the value of the guitar?

Let's sue Sotheby's for fraudulently inflating the bidding on old furniture and jewelry.

-PJ

22 posted on 02/21/2024 9:26:53 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Excellent point.


23 posted on 02/21/2024 9:27:57 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: alancarp

The amount of the “fine” was the “discerned profit” that Trump earned from receiving lower interest rates by inflating his net worth and his ability to repay the loan if it went bad. In other words, it was the “clawing back” or disgorgement of profits in the difference of interest rates he received against what a “normal” borrower would have received. By statute, or at least the judge’s interpretation, no loss by the bank is necessary. It was Trump’s loan “application” that was faulty. The bank didn’t need to even take it, the alleged false info, into consideration.


24 posted on 02/21/2024 9:30:43 AM PST by Oystir
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To: SSS Two

Don’t forget the 13th Amendment. Democrats will never forgive Lincoln for his war of northern aggression and take away their property, aka slaves.


25 posted on 02/21/2024 9:33:45 AM PST by DownInFlames (p)
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To: Oystir
against what a “normal” borrower would have received

I wish I knew what a "normal borrower" is, because people like Trump, Musk, O'Leary, etc., certainly are not normal. They are outlier borrowers who deal in 9-figure amounts, not 5-figure amounts.

We can't apply the same rules for a person getting a car loan to a billionaire venture capitalist or real estate mogul. They live in completely different worlds with completely different risk and completely different forms of collateral.

-PJ

26 posted on 02/21/2024 9:37:53 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Twotone

And of course 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th amendments.


27 posted on 02/21/2024 11:05:03 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Sacajaweau

Should also apply to Mann’s $1M punitive fine on Steyn with only $1 actual damages awarded by DC jury and no evidence provided by Mann to support even the $1.


28 posted on 02/21/2024 12:44:47 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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To: Bobbyvotes

Meanwhile, before an hypothetical, sane, court throws this out someone should apply the Democrat memes invoked to achieve it at a parallel case. One with falsely inflated political claims made to the voting public in search of political capital. Claims that said politician graduated high in his law school class, when really at its bottom. Claims he was college football QB when that never happened. Claims his wife was killed by a drunk driver, when said driver was sober and death was wife’s fault. Lies about the circumstances of his son’s death. A lot more probably politically false statements by Biden than probably financially false statements by Trump, and a lot more real damages incurred by those conned into voting for Biden than those who accepted Trump’s loan deals.


29 posted on 02/21/2024 12:56:47 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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