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Hochul tells NY businesses not to fear about Trump verdict: ‘Nothing to worry about’
TheHill ^ | 02/18/2024

Posted on 02/18/2024 5:45:14 AM PST by devane617

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To: woodpusher

We all know Cohen is reprehensible. Is that why Trump hired him?


601 posted on 03/21/2024 7:44:42 PM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: woodpusher

And is Turley suffering from Biden/Trump dementia?

https://abovethelaw.com/2024/03/jonathan-turley-michael-cohen-judge-pauley-dead/


602 posted on 03/21/2024 7:48:24 PM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: devane617

Anyone doing business in New York under the reign of the witch and the trash are asking to be ruined..


603 posted on 03/21/2024 7:54:33 PM PDT by GOPJ (If you don't benefit from treason, eventually you become a Trump voter. - - Dave Conley)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I'm sure you're aware that Michael Cohen was the lawyer who "allegedly" paid off Stormy Daniels

Perfectly legal. It was a non-disclosure agreement (NDA). That case will just go away. I can't picture using Michael Cohen as a star witness. It would be great to see F. Lee Bailey come back to cross examine him on credibility.

604 posted on 03/21/2024 8:00:28 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher
Of course it was perfectly legal. A North Carolina jury acquitted Favorite Son John Edwards of the same thing, and there was a baby from it!

-PJ

605 posted on 03/21/2024 8:05:06 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: joesbucks
But you keep leaving out the notification element.

You keep imagining that there is a notification element. The Archivist gets what is left for him.

606 posted on 03/21/2024 8:05:15 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: joesbucks
We all know Cohen is reprehensible. Is that why Trump hired him?

Nope. It was a desperation move. Your brother wasn't available.

607 posted on 03/21/2024 8:07:13 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher
You keep imagining that there is a notification element. The Archivist gets what is left for him.

Obama kept a bunch of documents but joesbucks (along with Jackass Smith) is only interested in Trump.

608 posted on 03/21/2024 8:26:14 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: joesbucks; woodpusher; Political Junkie Too; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
But you keep leaving out the notification element. If it’s as you claim, Cannon should dismiss the charges. A dismissal may occur at any time during a criminal case prior to a verdict by a jury or judge. The Judge may dismiss the case for legal or factual reasons, or the prosecutor may realize they just can’t prove the case and dismiss it. Should the prosecutor file charges but a judge determines insufficient evidence at the preliminary hearing, the judge may dismiss the charges. Judges cannot drop charges, but they can dismiss them. So why hasn’t she if it’s so clear cut?

We'd like to thank "your brother" for being available to provide Clarity to these discussions.

609 posted on 03/21/2024 8:30:31 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: joesbucks
And is Turley suffering from Biden/Trump dementia?

https://abovethelaw.com/2024/03/jonathan-turley-michael-cohen-judge-pauley-dead/

It appears this guy Joe Patrice that you liked to is unknown for a reason. But the real Jonathan Turley appeared to knock the snot out of the perverse Michael Cohen.

https://jonathanturley.org/2024/03/21/the-perversity-of-michael-cohen-federal-judge-denounces-cohen-as-a-serial-perjurer/

The “Perversity” of Michael Cohen: Federal Judge Denounces Cohen as a Serial Perjurer

Michael Cohen was back in court this week and it did not go well. The former fixer for Donald Trump was in court seeking a reduction in his federal sentence and to answer for his use of Google’s AI chatbot to submit arguments with fake case authority. However, things went off the rails when his counsel cited his prior testimony as evidence of his rehabilitation. U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman called the argument “perverse” and noted that Cohen is clearly a serial perjurer and cited the need for continued “deterrence.” That is hardly a promising review before Cohen appears as the star witness for Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg in the prosecution of former president Donald Trump.

If lying were an art form, former Trump fixer Michael Cohen would be its Rembrandt.

Throughout his career, the disbarred lawyer has found powerful clients who valued his reputation for supporting any side that offered the biggest payback.

For full disclosure, I have been a critic of Cohen for years, including columns when he was still representing Trump.

Cohen has been repeatedly accused of perjury. For example, after Cohen turned on Trump, he went from being a pariah to a hero for many Democrats. Yet, he continued the same pattern. When he was called before the House to testify against Trump soon after his plea agreement with the Justice Department, Cohen was again accused of perjury:

The House Oversight Committee chairman, Elijah Cummings, a Democrat from Maryland, began his questioning by noting that he told him that he had better testify truthfully this time or be nailed to the cross. “Didn’t I tell you that?” Cummings asked. “Yes, you did, more than once,” Cohen replied.

Then Cohen went forward and claimed he had cared nothing about jobs or pardons from Donald Trump. However, a number of news organizations reported that Cohen was upset after lobbying for the White House counsel, chief of staff, or other jobs in the administration. Despite a multitude of such sources, Cohen has insisted, “I was extremely proud to be the personal attorney for the president of the United States of America. I did not want to go to the White House. I was offered jobs.” There is little ambiguity here. Either multiple witnesses lied or Cohen once again lied to Congress.

Then Cohen stated, “I have never asked for, nor would I accept, a pardon from President Trump.” That also directly contradicts multiple sources who say his lawyer pressed the White House for a pardon, and that Cohen unsuccessfully sought a presidential pardon after FBI raids on his office and residences last year. (Roughly a month later, he decided to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller.).

Even after being stripped of his bar license and sentenced to three years in prison, Cohen continued the pattern. In 2019, Cohen failed to appear to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee, citing the inability to travel due to a medical surgery. However, he was seen partying before the hearing date with five friends with no apparent problems.

Even in jail, Cohen was accused of lying to a court in violation of an order for early release due to medical problems. He was ordered back into custody after being spotted at a high-end restaurant.

After Cohen admitted to various criminal acts in federal court to secure his plea agreement, he then declared that he lied. In his 2018 guilty plea before U.S. District Judge William Henry Pauley III, Cohen admitted to this conduct under oath.

Cohen was later asked by Trump counsel “Did you lie to Judge Pauley when you said that you were guilty of the counts that you said under oath that you were guilty of? Did you lie to Judge Pauley?”

Cohen matter-of-factly responded “yes.” He was then again asked “So you lied when you said that you evaded taxes to a judge under oath; is that correct?” He again responded “yes.”

Despite just admitting to a federal crime of perjury, the Justice Department and specifically the Southern District of New York’s U.S. Attorney’s office declined to prosecute.

Cohen was useful again and had found powerful allies who valued his curious skill set of being able to say anything at any time to help his patrons.

One judge, however, had had enough. In his court order, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman stated:

“It gives rise to two possibilities: one, Cohen committed perjury when he pleaded guilty before Judge Pauley or, two, Cohen committed perjury in his October 2023 testimony. Either way, it is perverse to cite the testimony, as Schwartz did, as evidence of Cohen’s ‘commitment to upholding the law.’”

He went on to criticize Cohen’s other lawyer, E. Danya Perry, in trying to excuse his perjury:

“These efforts to turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse fall flat. Cohen’s testimony was not, as Perry contends, a ‘clumsy’ or ‘poorly worded’ attempt to argue that… the government abused its prosecutorial discretion in charging those crimes. To the contrary, he unambiguously testified that he ‘didn’t’ commit tax evasion and that he ‘lied’ to Judge Pauley when he said that he had…Moreover, when given multiple opportunities to retreat from or clarify that testimony later, he stuck to his guns.”

He added that

“Specifically, Cohen repeatedly and unambiguously testified at the state court trial that he was not guilty of tax evasion and that he had lied under oath to Judge Pauley when he pleaded guilty to those crimes…This testimony is more troubling than the statements that Cohen had previously made in his book and on television — statements that the Court had specifically cited in denying Cohen’s third motion for early termination of supervised release… because it was given under oath…Either way, it is perverse to cite the testimony, as Schwartz did, as evidence of Cohen’s ‘commitment to upholding the law.'”

Indeed, that is the unique perversity of Michael Cohen. He has continued to game the system and play the media to his own advantage. Even admitting perjury on the stand did not produce a criminal charge. He has found new allies who need his unique ability to support their cause without the burden of accuracy or veracity.

What will be truly amazing is to see Bragg call Cohen to the stand in light of this record. Bragg’s weak criminal case will turn in great part on a serial liar and disbarred lawyer. Defense counsel need only read from past transcripts to establish a self-impeaching record of contradictions and lies. For Bragg to present Cohen as credible is incredible, particularly given this latest finding in 2024 by a federal judge. It is hard to present a witness as a redemptive sinner when he does not have a single redemptive moment to show a jury.

None of this may matter to a New York jury. Cohen learned long ago that you need to know your audience. No one looks to Michael Cohen for the truth. They look to him to say what needs to be said to rationalize a result. What is most perverse about Michael Cohen is the continued perverse need for Michael Cohen.

N.B.: Cohen responded to a tweet yesterday where I incorrectly referenced Judge Pauley rather than Judge Furman. I later deleted the tweet. Cohen however objected “Wrong you idiot (@JonathanTurley). Judge Pauley didn’t make the statement, Judge Jesse Furman did.” Indeed, you are right Michael, I did confuse the two names on X. It was Judge Furman who called you a perjurer. Of course, I have long admitted to being a serial offender of “Twitter” typos. That is bad but it is not quite as bad as being accused of being a serial perjurer.


610 posted on 03/21/2024 8:31:24 PM PDT by woodpusher
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That's gonna leave a mark.

611 posted on 03/21/2024 8:32:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Obama kept a bunch of documents....

Supposedly they are all in Chicago and they have digitized 0.002% of them.

612 posted on 03/21/2024 8:34:04 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: kiryandil; joesbucks; Political Junkie Too; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
We'd like to thank "your brother" for being available to provide Clarity to these discussions.

Well, he could have pointed out that while a prosecutor can drop charges, he can bring them again, but a judge can dismiss with prejudice.

613 posted on 03/21/2024 8:47:32 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: kiryandil
We'd like to thank "your brother" for being available to provide Clarity to these discussions.

That's why he was not available to work for Trump.

614 posted on 03/21/2024 8:50:40 PM PDT by woodpusher
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615 posted on 03/21/2024 8:53:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: kiryandil

Wasn’t Clarity the Freeper who acted as counsel for FR through the copyright lawsuit way back when?


616 posted on 03/21/2024 9:12:04 PM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: woodpusher

Different standards for Obama. Member of sacrosanct race and party.


617 posted on 03/21/2024 9:14:15 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: woodpusher

But perjury tainted Cohen was the type of counsel a certain former president enjoyed using and seems to have needed. As for Turley knocking the snot out of Cohen, he’s verbose like Keyes who was equally effective against Obama in that Illinois Senate race. BTW, whatever became of Keyes? He seems to have faded from the world.


618 posted on 03/21/2024 9:28:11 PM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: devane617

Had always heard about the intellectuals in the 5 boroughs of NYC were the smartest people in the world, do u agree ?


619 posted on 03/21/2024 9:36:07 PM PDT by chris haney (Apache)
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To: joesbucks
Wasn’t Clarity the Freeper who acted as counsel for FR through the copyright lawsuit way back when?

LOL!

620 posted on 03/21/2024 9:41:08 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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