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Why Russia is So Desperate to Capture Avdiivka
Youtube.com ^ | 2-5-2024 | The Icarus Project@UNITED24media

Posted on 02/04/2024 10:18:18 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: mass55th

Like it or not, that is how a representative democracy works
Love to see how that would work if everything needed 300 + million signatures lol


121 posted on 02/06/2024 3:23:27 AM PST by blitz128
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To: blitz128; mass55th
Like it or not, that is how a representative democracy works

“Representative democracy?” Thank you for confirming that you are one of them.

Are you pulling for Biden this year or are you more in favor of getting someone like Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom on the ticket?

122 posted on 02/06/2024 5:35:29 AM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: rxh4n1

“I also lurked here a long time before I got an account.”

We both did. :)


123 posted on 02/06/2024 7:49:57 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: StAnDeliver

“2020 was not just Joe Stolen but the first installation of a US puppet state by the Deep State”

Appreciate you comment.


124 posted on 02/06/2024 8:00:03 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: buwaya; StAnDeliver

“Who do I need to “persuade”?
There are idiots everywhere, and these people cannot be reached through any means available to me, which are religion, reason and historical perspective. I just laid out my own convictions and such. If that is not sufficient, then so be it.”

“Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves.” ― George Gordon Byron (Lord Byron)


125 posted on 02/06/2024 8:23:59 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: buwaya; StAnDeliver

I don’t post to persuade. When I originally posted about Ukraine/ I offered info not available.

Then, I asked freepers on thread if their preference would be to combine sources on one thread. If not repeated, that was affirmed by all... now they resent?!?!?


126 posted on 02/06/2024 8:52:49 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; All

20% Captured As Russian & Former Wagner Soldiers Storm Avdiivka From ALL Directions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StXXz8ekHio&ab_channel=WeebUnion


127 posted on 02/06/2024 8:54:06 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Fog of war???

Leaked: Ukraine Out-Killing Russia 20:1 in Avdiivka!
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2-6-2024 10:00 a.m.EST
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LINKS:
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128 posted on 02/06/2024 9:14:59 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

VIDEO: WAR COMMENTARY SUMMATION
05 Feb: Russians CROSSED THE DEATH VALLEY & ENTERED AVDIIVKA | War in Ukraine Explained
465K subscribers
2-5-2024 10:00p.m. EST
5:48 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OMt2HZBlO8

⚠️ Watch RFU in 20 languages: https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/channels

I am Ukrainian. My country has been invaded by Russia. In this video I will tell you what happened on the seven-hundred-twelfth day of the war.

Day 712: Feb 05

Today, the biggest news comes from the Avdiivka direction.

Here, the most dynamic clashes are taking place in the central part of the region. First of all, Ukrainian forces managed to localize the Russian breakthrough by retaking key positions that allowed them to establish fire control over the roads. This way, Russian heavy mechanized assault units cannot enter the region and reinforce those inside the bridgehead, and Russians have to rely exclusively on small supplies via the underground pipe.

Russian sources also released several videos showing how they are delivering additional small supplies with aerial drones. Due to continuous Ukrainian shelling and tank raids, Russians did not manage to improve their situation, while Ukrainians still have not found and destroyed the entry point to the pipe, causing the frontline here to get stuck.

Such a setting forces Russians to return to and double down on their previous idea of partial encirclement of the town. The partial encirclement of the town implies penetrating the settlement right between its two most fortified areas: the chemical plant and the area with high-rise buildings.

Moreover, in order to achieve encirclement in this scenario, it is sufficient to advance just from one side because this is where the main Ukrainian supply roads are located. By advancing in the center and cutting it off, Ukrainians in the southern part of the town will basically have no connection to the mainland, apart from risky dirt roads along the tree lines in the field.

The first major attempt happened a few weeks ago when Russians tried to use mechanized columns. Ukrainian fighters from the one-hundred-tenth mechanized brigade released a video showing this attack. According to the fighters, Russians tried to split them and open multiple vectors of attack. However, they were spotted well in advance by Ukrainian reconnaissance drone operators and gradually demolished by the time they reached the front line.

Unfortunately, Russians made reasonable adjustments, abandoned the idea of using large armored groups, and switched to pure infantry assaults. Prior to making each push, Russians would send small units of two to four people one after another into the small residential zone to accumulate forces. Even though Russian soldiers complained that Ukrainians were targeting even such small groups, overall, the Russian tactic worked, and they expanded the area of control over the so-called Ivushka dacha area on the northern outskirts of Avdiivka.

As a result, the Ukrainian Army withdrew from the tree lines north of the quarry, inevitably giving Russians more freedom of movement in the area. This reduced Ukrainian fire control over the region and allowed Russians to start reinforcing their infantry with armored fighting vehicles once again. Geolocated footage shows multiple Russian pieces of equipment amid demolished houses.

Nonetheless, the additional reinforcements did not seem to help, and despite having more forces in the Ivushka dacha area, they had less progress. The main reason for the reduced pace of the operation lies in the topography of the region. If we look at the topographic map, we can see that there is a small valley between Avdiivka and the Ivushka dacha area. Crossing it required getting exposed, which inevitably led to high losses and retreats. Geolocated combat footage released by Ukrainian special operators reveals that many Russian forces were eliminated by drones.

However, suddenly, the fights did break out on the streets of Avdiivka, implying that Russians penetrated the Ukrainian defense. Russian sources reported that Russians advanced by up to five hundred meters, reached the railways, and cut off Ukrainian supplies. Other sources started amplifying the news, with some claiming that the whole residential area had fallen. Nonetheless, based on geolocation, Russians were spotted only on Sapronova Street, implying a significantly narrower zone of operations.

A Ukrainian fighter from the twenty-fourth battalion reported that there was no need to be concerned because good news would soon be released. The freshest updates received several hours ago from the soldiers on the ground indicate that the Russian bridgehead was completely eliminated. Another soldier released a video showing how they cleared the street and took captive all Russian soldiers that survived.

*** Select the 3 horizontal dots to view the Complete Transcript [Below video/ top right corner]


129 posted on 02/06/2024 9:23:17 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: Allegra

Ah you got me, had to ask comrade kazan for correct representative republic lol


130 posted on 02/06/2024 10:56:43 AM PST by blitz128
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To: blitz128

VIDEO

Russians refuse to storm Southern Ukraine
Kanal13
1.6M subscribers
2-6-2024 Premiered 2:00 p.m. EST
1:22 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSkmlqg9Zts

Russian troops have difficulties with planning operations related to the storming of the Ukrainian bridgehead on the left bank of the Kherson region. The head of the Joint Coordination Press Center of the Southern Defence Forces, Nataliya Humenyuk, said this on the air of the telethon, gordonua media outlet reports.

“The enemy does not stop storming there and tries to get together personnel who often refuse to go on assaults for at least one attack per day. But there were days when up to a dozen attacks a day were launched against our positions. And this suggests that the enemy really has difficulties planning these operations,” Humenyuk said.

At the same time, according to her, the occupiers have one task – to continue to terrorize the positions of the Ukrainian forces and try to draw them out from the left bank.

“The enemy is trying to put maximum pressure on all types of weapons available. Including not only our military positions on the left bank, but also the civilians on the right,” Humenyuk said.

She said that the weather has been helping the Ukrainian military for the past two days. Stormy wind, strong fogs and temperature changes are less favourable for Russians who are on the lower left bank of the Dnipro River, Humenyuk explained.


131 posted on 02/06/2024 1:04:27 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: Allegra

Its a Republic AND a Democracy.
People tie themselves in knots quibbling on this.
It is, like most American controversies, almost a religious question. It sounds like Byzantines arguing over the nature of Christ, and, with a typical bad temper, calling each other heretics.

Its clarifying to look at it from the outside.
Where does the US system, as it actually has been over the last century, fit in what the rest of humanity does? Short answer is that it is a Democracy with minor peculiarities.


132 posted on 02/06/2024 5:04:10 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya
“It’s {sic!} a Republic AND a Democracy. People tie themselves in knots quibbling on this. It is, like most American controversies, almost a religious question. It sounds like Byzantines arguing over the nature of Christ, and, with a typical bad temper, calling each other heretics.”
”Its {sic!} clarifying to look at it from the outside. Where does the US system, as it actually has been over the last century, fit in what the rest of humanity does? Short answer is that it is a Democracy with minor peculiarities.”
133 posted on 02/06/2024 5:13:30 PM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: Allegra

WOW! Brains, sense of humor AND beauty.


134 posted on 02/06/2024 11:19:24 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; Eleutheria5; Chad C. Mulligan; tlozo; buwaya; Uncle Lonny; monkeyshine; ...

I was looking at one of the links offered on this thread, and eventually came upon the link below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFze-U5Euqk

This link and site is apparently run by a young woman from a place in Russia called Bashkortostan with 5 million people. It was one of several areas in Russia that in 1991 wanted to be an independent country. The woman explained that some of these areas are as big as Argentina, but they were all forced into the new Russian state and now are forced to send troops to fight and die in Ukraine. She tells how one man fought against Russia mining gold in their area and stealing their resources, but now, like herself, is forced to live in exile while helping make people aware of their own struggle, and that of other areas like their own. The efforts for these areas wishing independence to protest is made much more difficult when Putin turns off the internet for their area. Can you imagine how you would feel if our government turned off YOUR internet?


135 posted on 02/07/2024 10:58:48 AM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority.)
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To: dvwjr; dennisw; buwaya; blitz128; UMCRevMom@aol.com

Your figure is ballpark for the US with not many more civilian deaths. However take a look at just how bad it was for other countries like Russia with 8 to 10 million soldiers and over 10 million civilians dead, or China, Japan, Phillipines, and others. For its size, Greece with 300,000 civilians dead is horrific. It truly was a world war!

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war


136 posted on 02/07/2024 11:15:21 AM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority.)
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To: gleeaikin

The Ruzzian empire must be destroyed! Free Bashkortostan!


137 posted on 02/07/2024 11:27:27 AM PST by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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To: gleeaikin

Well of course we’d be hopping mad. The US government has other ways of dealing with dissenters, though.

These independent movements, or balkanizations, is always rejected by those in power. Look at Texas and the border dispute as just one example. Or Clinton’s war in the Balkans against Miolosovic’s suppression. Or the breakup of Czechoslovakia. Central power always exercises central power for its own reasons and rarely bothers to explain why; rarely do they come to accommodation peacefully. And a little province on the edge of Russia, despite their gold, couldn’t gather international support.

And in those rare moments in world events when people do try to organize and rise up for their own even modicum of sovereignty, they more often then not end up shut down or simply not supported by the powers, and those who profess principles of freedom but don’t want to actually see it spread, or fear that it is too distruptive to the status quo - to wit, the Arab Spring. Obama basically supported the rulers in Egypt, Iran even Syria while letting Libya descend into chaos for purposes that are inexplicable to everyone except Hillary and her acolytes.

I have no doubt Russia launched a brutal war of aggression. I think I understand parts of the reasons why. If there really were “ethnically Russian” provinces in Ukraine that wanted to secede or form their own country, they should have been heard. Russia did not need to rush in and launch attacks all over Ukraine. So I don’t trust Putin’s motives one bit.

That said, unfortunately, I cannot separate key facts that I think undermine what should be an honest attempt to help Ukraine defend itself from Russian aggression. I am speaking specifically of the Trump phone call asking for evidence of corruption, the leaking of that phone call, the impeachment of Trump for making that phone call (which IMO he had every right to do and ask for information), the burisma dealings with Hunter, the blackmail the POTUS Biden brazenly admitted to before he was even a candidate for the job. Then of course, this is not the first time Russia took bits of Ukraine. Nobody out here seemed to care when he took Crimea in 2014. What changed? Sadly, these are impurities in the mix. It sucks. These impurities form the basis for the skepticism of our involvement in Ukraine. I don’t think that it is based on some sort of “pro-Russia” motive, rather, I think it is based on the apparent self-dealings and corruptions by those who want to fund Ukraine the most. Then, though not directly relevant, I think about the rumors that somehow US diplomats and agents “convinced” Saddam that he should invade Kuwait. If true it was like a set-up. So I wonder whether our lack of response in 2014 and/or our own internal political squabbling over Ukraine opened a door to Putin’s latest aggression. He may have had reason to believe that 1) a Democrat in power would not respond just as they did nothing in 2014 and 2) that the POTUS was weak on the world stage, or worse compromised and even possibly that 3) it would exploit fissures and expose various corruptions which would be helpful to his cause and possibly even 4) that he was somehow tricked into thinking he could get away with it in order to create an armed conflict by the west.

The US media hasn’t turned off our internet, but they have done a marvelous job of minimizing most of the dissent. They now want to crucify Tucker Carlson for interviewing Putin. Think what you want about it. I sure don’t want to see justifications or rationalizations for Russia’s unwarranted and seeming unprovoked military aggression but I have no problem with talking and interviewing. As they said during the Oslo accord days - you don’t need to make peace with your friends, you have to make peace with your enemies. If Russia is an enemy and we need to seek peace the first start is dialogue.


138 posted on 02/07/2024 12:05:08 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: MeganC

Zeepers

Remote controlled

Moral compasses

Thought minders

from Mars

Gog zombie usa

Magog zombie nato

Rev 13


139 posted on 02/07/2024 12:15:53 PM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: Firehath

The Dalai Lama goes to a pizza parlor. The kid at the counter asks him what he’d like and the Dalai Lama say, “I’d like you to make me one with everything.”


140 posted on 02/07/2024 12:27:21 PM PST by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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