Posted on 12/23/2023 8:20:57 PM PST by SeekAndFind
The even quicker path is based on the CO ruling itself, where it says that if Trump files appeal before 4 Jan, the order is stayed until election and he remains on the ballot.
So as long as Trump files by the 4th, the case is moot.
“The Supreme Court can’t rule on the one without the other.”
Sure, they can. They can ignore the question of insurrection and declare that regardless of insurrection the 14th never applied to the President and was also repealed twice.
You beat me to it. Thats the first thing my Covid ravaged brain was trying to espouse. How can the states deny Trump his right to trial before this gets to upper levels of appeals.
The Velvet Fascism of “Protect our Democracy”
THOMAS BUCKLEY DECEMBER 23, 2023
Deciding that a person who has not been charged with, let alone convicted of, insurrection is guilty of insurrection and therefore cannot run for president…that is “protecting our democracy” in action. Whenever that term is used, one can be assured that the democracy they are referring to has no semblance to any actual democracy.
https://www.activistpost.com/2023/12/the-velvet-fascism-of-protect-our-democracy.html
“Sure, they can. They can ignore the question of insurrection and declare that regardless of insurrection the 14th never applied to the President and was also repealed twice.”
Yes, which means they have covered both issues. As I stated, the issues can’t be separated in the Colorado case.
Now, of course, the Court can’t either rule on or dodge the question as to whether or not Trump engaged in insurrection because he has not been charged or convicted of it in a court of law, which is a separate issue not involving the 14th amendment. The Supreme Court is not prosecutorial, it only renders decisions made by lower courts. They will remind the Colorado Supreme Court that insurrection cannot be assigned to Trump by judicial fiat, it has to be tried in court and judgment rendered by a jury, a fair jury, which does not exist in Washington D C. But we have to go through the motions and procedures.
“Yes, which means they have covered both issues.”
What? That is NOT covering both sides. They can completely ignore the question did Trump commit insurrection.
“They can completely ignore the question did Trump commit insurrection.”
I must not be making myself clear.
They will overturn the Colorado Supreme Court decision which states that Trump committed insurrection and therefore will not be on the ballot as supposedly the 14th amendment demands.
When the decision is overturned, everything is overturned — the ballot exclusion and the insurrection ruling it is based on will be gone. The Supreme Court will not split its decision on mere parts of the ruling. That would be absurd.
This is the most likely outcome…
Trump has never been formally charged, let alone convicted of “insurrection”
and the court has absolutely no incentive to rule on that matter.
Only issue is should he be on the ballot or not and clearly denying him without due process is unconstitutional.
And no federal insurrection charges are coming
I am sure the usual suspects will dissent
No, that’s not the logic. The word ‘insurrection’ doesn’t even need to be a consideration at all.
The logic is that the 14th Amendment does not in any way apply to the President. It never did. Therefore, Colorado’s decision using the 14th Amendment is void since the 14th Amendment does not apply to the President.
In no way does that nullify the Colorado court’s claim that Trump committed insurrection. That claim remains for challenge.
IF, and a very big IF, the court addresses the insurrection claim, they may set it aside as Trump did not have a trial and their ruling that he committed insurrection is in violation of his constitutional right to a trial. The USSC usually addresses only the part of a decision that has the effect needed. They tend not to address all parts of a decisions once the effect has changed.
Dems Feign Panic Over Joe Biden, Gaslighting
America, saying, ‘It’s Even Worse Than It Looks’
Aside from Trump beating him in every poll, Biden has multiple things working against him.
<><>he has a “surviving son” under indictment
<><>he is not getting credit for “saving democracy”
<><>his actual performance as president has been abysmal,
<><>his foreign policy negatives are insurmountable
<><>vote-getting domestic successes are non-existent
<><>thinking up new ways to charge Trump is getting hard
<><>he is perceived as feeble, senile, and rapidly declining due to his advanced age,
<><>he’s perceived that way because those things are actually happening to him,
<><>a shift in campaign messaging wont hack it,
<><>but the patented one-of-a-kind Dem voter fraud machine is a definite plus.
No one can say you and I haven’t warned the American people.
They will all act shocked and young people will say “he had it coming to him. He wasn’t woke.”
May God protect Donald Trump and his supporters as we battle to save our Republic.
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