Vivek Ramaswamy promotes Jan. 6 conspiracy theory by suggesting it was 'an inside job'

NBC News ^ | Dec. 6, 2023 | Megan Lebowitz

[wiseprince]

No way. Biden over the Repukes any day of the week. If the Repukes win there is no chance of an opposition to the craziness. It really is Trump or voting won’t fix anything.

[wiseprince]

I think he mentioned that in the last debate....but no one was watching.

[old curmudgeon]

How could the corruption of NBC be made clearer?

Every day we see more documented evidence that government agencies created the January 6 fraud, yet NBC refuses to recognize the things now being exposed.

The “conspiracy” was real, but it was on the part of the FBI and the DC cops.

If the news media were not corrupt, it would never ever let us forget the fact that those government agencies are corrupt beyond repair and must be shut down and replaced by a credible agency.

[ChessExpert]

“Given how shrill the media was in defense of Ray Epps ...”

Here are some things that I think are well established:

Ray Epps told people the day before that they would go into the Capitol building.
He directed people who removed barriers used for crowd control.
On January 6th he directed people to go into the Capitol.
He told a relative that he’d organized the whole thing.

The preceding does sound a conspiracy with Epps playing a very prominent role. Now consider this. Congressional Democrats, the Department of Justice, and the press treat Epps like a pal.

“Why am I the only person on this stage, at least, who can say that Jan. 6 now does look like it was an inside job?” Ramaswamy.

[Carry_Okie]

The Lend-Lease Act was the system by which the U.S. gave away $50 billion in military aid in 1941-45 (during World War II) so that the Allies could better fight Germany and Japan.[1] There was no repayment required. $31 billion went to Britain, $11 billion to the Soviet Union, $3 billion to France, and $1.6 billion to China. ...

passed by Congress in March 1941 (8 months before Pearl Harbor)”
Very good, and that was real money. You are one of the few on FR who has a grip on this history.

Now, for twenty points, why was the CONVENTION ON NATURE PROTECTION AND WILD LIFE PRESERVATION IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE ratified March 11, 1941 without a committee vote or quorum?

For more details please see, Patrick Henry "Ratified": The Treaty Power, Its Perils, and Portents.

[caww]

Vivek Ramaswamy’s nose is very brown.

[ChessExpert]

Thanks. Someone at FR mentioned Lend-Lease. Later Tucker Carlsen mentioned it with emphasis, but no elaboration. I glanced at your link, and it looks interesting. Given my short attention span and general laziness, perhaps you could provide an overview.

As to the debates, here’s something from the Daily Signal:
https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/12/06/7-key-takeaways-fourth-gop-presidential-debate/?utm_source=TDS_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MorningBell&mkt_tok=ODI0LU1IVC0zMDQAAAGP4vrMjSFPBy2cikd2SBPm5bwexXT5PICyAUmWZtDqgTSIZnQ7ummwdYXgmUtzJuRS8VVK1dBVGMrzoONVYM-HXSWXp_rp1kSZWLIpmlThh4uNGGQs

You and others may want to peruse this. I’m expect there are some juicy tidbits. Compared to the rest, this may be minor, but it rubbed me the wrong way:

‘For illegal aliens who have been in America longer than a few years, Haley said, “We’ve got to start seeing, who is it? How long have they been here? Have they been vetted? Have they paid taxes? Have they been working?”’

I’m all for nuance and judgment when dealing with individual human beings. However, every illegal immigrant, no matter how nice, should acknowledge that entering this country illegally was not legal. It’s time that immigration laws be enforced for everyone without exception. Get deported and get in line to apply for legal citizenship. Illegal immigrants should not be fast-tracked for citizenship - quite the contrary. We know that giving an inch, as Haley does preemptively, is giving away miles.

[Blue Highway]

Yeah, that’s the only reason I knew it was a fact and Nikki went all Will Smith on him by saying, “Leave my daughter’s name out yo mouff” (minus the slap). My point is he was perfectly setup to bring it up again.

[Blue Highway]

And the MSDNC pundits after the debate praised Haley and declared her the winner of that debate. Hahahahahaha

[Stravinsky]

I think it’s obvious that there were FBI folks there encouraging people, leading them in, etc. Given the nature of the incident (riot, at its worst moments), I’d say that counts as an inside job.

[Blue Highway]

And they expect us to believe the protests that will start up right before the election in 2024 will be “organic” and not staged...

[1Old Pro]

And the MSDNC pundits after the debate praised Haley and declared her the winner of that debate. Hahahahahaha

I don't remember Haley taking on Joe Biden or the establishment or the swamp, she just bragged about have Wall Street support.

[Blue Highway]

1) Kari Lake, 2) the woman from Wyoming who demolished Les Cheney (Harriet Hageman), 3) Sarah Palin but she kind of fizzled out. 4) Margarie Taylor Green

[Carry_Okie]

Thanks. Someone at FR mentioned Lend-Lease. Later Tucker Carlsen mentioned it with emphasis, but no elaboration. I glanced at your link, and it looks interesting. Given my short attention span and general laziness, perhaps you could provide an overview.

Oh, you mean a reason to read it? Well (seeing as I wrote it), how about that every unconstitutional statute empowering a body of regulatory "environmental rules" cites treaties for their authority. Consider Section 1531 of The Endangered Species Act.

Now, I suggest you read it. Then I will answer the question you failed to address, as it is directly related to Lend Lease and MUCH more.

[BrandtMichaels]

And implicated as a nother guilty party after the truth seekers dig far enough. All the usual suspects turn up time after time.

[BrandtMichaels]

And implicated as a nother guilty party after the truth seekers dig far enough. All the usual suspects turn up time after time.

[Triple]

I like him!

[ChessExpert]

Thanks for posting. Is it valid to say that treaties now have the powers of Constitutional amendments? Further, that these treaties are easily revised by non-elected bureaucrats?

[Carry_Okie]

Is it valid to say that treaties now have the powers of Constitutional amendments?
It shouldn't be, but the way the Supremacy Clause can be read due to that extra comma, one can twist it the wrong way. The language should have been MUCH more explicit.

Further, that these treaties are easily revised by non-elected bureaucrats?
Obviously it shouldn't be any more than it shouldn't be posssible for a treaty's terms to become enforceable on signature of any officer of the government, but that's the way it currently works pursuant to a treaty we never ratified.

Welcome to the mechanics of "Global Governance." Try reading the article carefully. It explains all of this and more.

[Carry_Okie]

Is it valid to say that treaties now have the powers of Constitutional amendments?
It shouldn't be, but the way the Supremacy Clause can be read due to that extra comma, one can twist it the wrong way. The language should have been MUCH more explicit.

Further, that these treaties are easily revised by non-elected bureaucrats?
Obviously it shouldn't be, but that's the way it currently works. Welcome to the mechanics of "Global Governance."

The article explains all of this but it's not friendly to skim reading.