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Starship test flight makes progress, but ship and booster explode
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Posted on 11/18/2023 7:38:57 AM PST by FarCenter

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To: SamAdams76

My criticism is not of the test launches.

My criticism is of the “spinner” press agents.


61 posted on 11/18/2023 9:55:47 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: FarCenter

It hit the Firmament.


62 posted on 11/18/2023 9:57:01 AM PST by Fairhairedboy (MAGA)
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To: TexasGator

If I were inclined to wager, I’d place a small bet against 100 in 2023, but hope to lose the bet.

Next Falcon-9 is a Starlink deployment, scheduled for tomorrow.


63 posted on 11/18/2023 10:00:57 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: FarCenter

A long way still to go. Keep going Mr Musk, you’re doing great things.


64 posted on 11/18/2023 10:23:08 AM PST by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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To: Fairhairedboy
“ Firmament”

Hahaha💯
65 posted on 11/18/2023 10:24:06 AM PST by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

It’s called a RUD it happens, go back and try again


66 posted on 11/18/2023 10:32:16 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: NorthMountain

I agree that descent was probably supposed to use the inner engines. The failure of some of them to reignite, or stay lit, is something they will probably be looking at.


67 posted on 11/18/2023 10:38:18 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: NorthMountain

Musk needs Starship to lift his Starlink V2 satellites. Falcon can only lift the “V2 mini” version.

Starship can also act as a space station module, and a way to recover failing large satellites.

With a low enough cost-to-orbit, we can do things like another Webb Telescope.


68 posted on 11/18/2023 10:43:11 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

All true, but doesn’t erase the market for small and medium lift launch vehicles. It opens new possibilites.


69 posted on 11/18/2023 10:53:50 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: baclava

A worthy read is “The Right Stuff”, by Tom Wolfe. Loved the “Shepherd’s Prayer”.


70 posted on 11/18/2023 11:16:10 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: cgbg

These are proto-types not production rockets, spacex tests to fail and keeps upgrading the next booster and starship.


71 posted on 11/18/2023 11:44:02 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: TexasGator

Well they have 3 launch pads 2 at Kennedy and 1 at Vandenberg so a 100 launchs in a year is very due able starlink helps too


72 posted on 11/18/2023 11:51:18 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: tomkat
I missed the live launch, but am wondering if debris from the booster blowing up may have caused the upper stage explosion ?

Nope. Far apart from each other. Both exploded from flight termination software and hardware.

The booster deviated from it's scheduled return trajectory, and was automatically terminated. Quite a while later, the upper stage ship deviated from it's suborbital trajectory and the flight termination software triggered the termination of the ship. All it takes is for the ship to be off one degree of it's orbit, for it to hit Hawaii rather than land in the water nearby. Safer to terminate it than try to nudge it back on trajectory.

73 posted on 11/18/2023 12:17:08 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat

Yes, and thanks for that.
A couple posters upthread explained it as well, as I’d not yet seen video re Starship having done it’s sep and gotten waaaay downrange.

Musk and the SpaceX team are doing amazing work, and would be even further along if the worthless Feds would get the hell out of their way.


74 posted on 11/18/2023 12:23:34 PM PST by tomkat
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To: tomkat
Musk and the SpaceX team are doing amazing work, and would be even further along if the worthless Feds would get the hell out of their way.

Agree. Not just worthless Feds, but state, county and city government also are incompetent and many are worthless. State transportation departments can't fix highways so they contract it out, and private companies get it fixed in a fraction of the time and cost that the state projected. Gets worse at the city level. But the Feds are worst at overspending, delaying progress, and screwing up things in general.

75 posted on 11/18/2023 12:32:33 PM PST by roadcat
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To: tomkat

I am surprised the feds let them launch the 2nd test flight as quick as they did. Rebuilding the launch pad and making improvements to the rocket in a matter of 7 months is awesome.


76 posted on 11/18/2023 12:40:23 PM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: chajin

Exactly, calling a double blow-up a success is disengenous and lame.

Detail what happened, including positive progress over the first attempt, but rate it a success? Not so much.

One can’t honestly gussy-up the events with happy-face cheerleading and maintain any credibility.

Next time should be better and hopefully an actual success.

Onward, Elon and company!


77 posted on 11/18/2023 12:58:48 PM PST by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: NorthMountain

I do love watching the prototype testing for these big rockets. The failures are always expected, surprising, and spectacular.

Can’t wait for the next launch.

Better stand back!


78 posted on 11/18/2023 1:55:19 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: Fairhairedboy

Bingo!


79 posted on 11/18/2023 2:30:48 PM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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To: roadcat

He is subsidized, heavily and contracted by NASA.


80 posted on 11/18/2023 2:32:02 PM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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