Not only is he wrong about the lack of widespread election fraud, but stealing the election only required enough fraud to flip the result in three of the following 5 states - PA, MI, WI, GA and AZ. Each one of those states went to Biden by the slimmest of margins. Election fraud didn’t have to be widespread. It only had to be wide enough.
"Mark Meadows has testified that he told Trump several times that there was no basis to any claims of widespread [??? emphasis added] election fraud"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
Contrast the deceptive imo, politically correct denial of widespread election fraud with the zero-tolerance triggers of the 14th Amendment's (14A) Section 2, that section a penalty for states where election fraud has occurred.
"is denied to any"
"or in any way abridged,"
Excerpted from 14A:
"Section 2: Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced [emphases added] in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State." [Apportionment of Representatives]
Section 5: The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."
In addition to probably ignoring Section 2 on J6, note that Pence and Congress also probably ignored widespread state non-compliance with 12th Amendment electoral vote rules imo.
In fact, not only did the states surrender their power to make state winner-take-all laws for electoral votes when they ratified that amendment imo, but Justice Joseph Story had explained that when political parties divide a state's electoral votes, the state's electoral votes supporting a particular candidate are effectively neutralized, comparable to when a state's federal senators vote yes and no on a given issue.
"In case of any party divisions in a state, it may neutralize its whole vote [emphasis added], while all the other states give an unbroken electoral vote." —Justice Joseph Story, Article 2, Section 1, Clauses 2 and 3, Commentaries on the Constitution 3, 1833."
Finally, as a side note to this post, consider that probably the main reason that we hear media complaints about the electoral college is the following.
The electoral college is now the only thing stopping the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties that have pirated control of state and federal governments from permanently establishing a puppet presidency that will unquestioningly sign unconstitutional taxing and spending bills into law.
And he knew this how? I have read that it will take a million dollars per defendant in legal fees, not counting appeals.
None of them have that kind of money.
Saying he warned Trump, even if it is true, is meaningless. Just means he is in CYA mode.
Who cares???
Last time I looked at that pesky constitution thingy, I failed to see where believing you have been cheated was illegal.
I failed to see where telling people that you believe that you have been cheated was illegal.
I failed to see where a judge can tell you not to talk about it. That would be illegal.
President Trump has been stripped of his constitutional rights.
Period.
End of discussion.
Mark Meadows testimony is his opinion, which means who cares!?
He’s lying.
Update!
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1716943573852237843
Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
For the past year and a half there were suspicions throughout Trumpworld and beyond that Meadows was wearing a wire for the feds
Now many saying that has been confirmed today
5:23 PM · Oct 24, 2023
So Mark voiced his opinion. So what?
Is Meadows now claiming that his book is a work of fiction?
I’m curious to know what Meadows’ explanation for the five-state “pause” in vote-counting in the wee hours on election night.... that resumed, almost as if “in-sync”, after sending observers away. I’m betting he’d say that was “perfectly normal”, if not the “new normal” in Amerika.
Story I heard on another thread was that some talking head from CBS said their story WAS NOT ACCURATE. Don’t know what exactly that means, but we shall see.
This guy had an opinion that was different than that guy’s opinion. Very important.
What crime has been committed?
the testimony means nothing. he could be telling the truth that he told Trump, but that doesn’t mean anything other than he offered Trump his opinion.
every president gets opinions from different angles.
this is a leak from the morons on the left to the fake news intended to bash trump, but when looked at through a reasonable prism, you realize this is a nothingburger.
And? So?
This is all they got from Meadows?
LOL!
So i guess they need to arrest 3 quarters of Americans for not believing this bullsh##
There was “significant voting fraud,” but the methods varied.
So? What has that to do with the price of tea in China. What matters is whether Trump believed sincerely that fraud had occurred and that the remedies that existed were denied him.
No basis to any claims of widespread election fraud HUH Moe.
81,000,000 votes
Biden only took 16 counties
States allowed illegal changes to state laws
ect ect ect.......................