Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Banker says Trump’s financial statements were key to loan approvals, but there were ‘sanity checks’
AP ^ | 10/11/2023 | Michael Sisak

Posted on 10/12/2023 1:31:03 PM PDT by thegagline

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-71 last
To: odawg

Putting fraudulent information on financial disclosures is illegal.


61 posted on 10/12/2023 5:12:04 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: 1Old Pro

He’s had about 3MM of debt forgiven, which means he didn’t repay it


62 posted on 10/12/2023 5:26:20 PM PDT by Kathy in OC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Liaison

Wow. So everyone you know in real estate is a cheater? That’s sad.


63 posted on 10/12/2023 5:27:41 PM PDT by Kathy in OC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Fuzz

“Putting fraudulent information on financial disclosures is illegal.”

That is beside the point. Trump did not put fraudulent information on the financial disclosure. Evaluation of what your property is worth is a subjective procedure. Trump’s estimation is just as good as anyone else’s.

Have you ever been to or seen an auction?

Have you ever seen a used car dealer give an honest appraisal of one of his cars? No, because everyone know buyer beware.

Your must be stupid or a DeSantis supporter.


64 posted on 10/12/2023 5:31:54 PM PDT by odawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: Liaison

Sure, but that is rather different from just valuing your own property and having the tax office even bother to take that into account.


65 posted on 10/12/2023 5:55:15 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: ncalburt

You mis-state the situation with the Condo.

He reported the condo as 20M, but *she had an option* for 8M. The AG was arguing that the difference was a deceit, rather than simply a locked-in buy-out price for a long-term tenant.


66 posted on 10/12/2023 6:01:23 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: wiseprince

The argument is that he overstated the value of properties he owned to get lower interest rates. My point is that his income and holdings were high enough that the difference in opinion didn’t come into play.


67 posted on 10/12/2023 6:05:26 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Fuzz

Over-stating your income for a loan is fraudulent.
Mis-stating or omitting your liabilities for a loan is fraudulent.
Saying that you own a property which you do not and offering it for collateral is fraudulent.

Saying you think you can get a different price than someone else thinks that you can get is not fraudulent. Not remotely.

Claiming that a tax assessment after class deductions represents a market value is pretty close to fraud, and is at the least stupidity. The same with suggesting that a years-old buy-out option on a property represents current market price.


68 posted on 10/12/2023 6:15:28 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: Kathy in OC

I never said they get what they wanted. I should have said not all people inflate prices. Market value usually rules and may try to keep to that. It just too many folks have inflated prices to get more, assumed that property amenities are better than they are, sold properties that look good but sucked (hidden money pits) etc.
my brother could not sell his house for 5 years due to too high for the market. Tried to say that certain amenities were way more than they should and would not drop the price.


69 posted on 10/12/2023 7:22:55 PM PDT by Liaison (CTANSTAAFL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: lepton

The appraisal district values a parcel of land differently based on its designated use.

A residential parcel worth $375,000 on the open market may be valed at $300,000 by the appraisal district for property tax purposes.

If the owner designates the exact same parcel for agricultural use, the valuation drops to a fraction of that.

If the owner designates that parcel for club use, even less.

If the owner designates it as common area, in some jurisdictions the valuation drops to $1 for tax purposes.

A quick hearing with the tax assessor’s office or a zoning commission hearing can redesignate the land back to residential use. The valuation jumps back up to $300,000.

What is that parcel worth, regardless of the designation? $375K.

People in real estate know that this case is a steaming pile of crap.


70 posted on 10/12/2023 10:09:24 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (🇺🇸✝️🇮🇱)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: TheWriterTX

Anyone that has ever owned a home should know it too.


71 posted on 10/13/2023 8:42:56 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-71 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson