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A car-carrying ship that burned for a week on the North Sea is towed to a Dutch port for salvaging
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| August 3, 2023
| PETER DEJONG
Posted on 08/07/2023 2:14:57 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76
Buy an electric car they said...it will be good for the environment they added...
I wonder how much frivolous and unnecessary CO2 was produced in the burning of this ship.
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posted on
08/07/2023 3:03:15 PM PDT
by
rottndog
(What comes after America?)
To: desertsolitaire
I wonder how many of the vehicles are still going to be sold?
None...this will be a total loss. Even cars that didn't burn were subjected to dozens of hours in an extremely hot environment. The car manufacturers cannot guarantee the safe operation of the vehicles after that. Their insurers will write off the whole thing.
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posted on
08/07/2023 3:09:10 PM PDT
by
rottndog
(What comes after America?)
To: wjcsux
I wonder when insurance companies are going to start refusing to insure the transport of EV’s.
The only way I can see to safely transport EVs in bulk like this is in some kind of hermetically sealed container vessel, where the oxygen levels can be reduced enough to inhibit combustion.
Back in my submarine days, we could tell oxygen was getting low in the atmosphere when a lit cigarette would not stay lit long. It doesn't have to be reduced completely, just a couple of percentage points to get this effect.
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posted on
08/07/2023 3:15:14 PM PDT
by
rottndog
(What comes after America?)
To: george76
Notice that not one word described the cause of the fire on the ship, Fremantle Highway. That's because it has stirred up a response by anti-EV critics. Initial reports by an emergency responder is heard in a recording released by Dutch broadcaster RTL that, "The fire started in the battery of an electric car." That report has not been verified. Because the sensitive nature of the cause, we may never learn the official cause of the fire. My theory is, they are hiding the true cause because of insurance purposes.
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posted on
08/07/2023 3:30:03 PM PDT
by
jonrick46
(Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
To: BBB333
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posted on
08/07/2023 3:31:15 PM PDT
by
wally_bert
(I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
To: george76
The Dutch oven has arrived.
To: rottndog
I wondering this loss alone is enough to raise the cost of insuring this cargo such that sticker price shock is noticeable?
To: monkeyshine
More like oh Lord won’t you buy me a Mercedes Burns.
To: george76
If Mercedes had a North American plant, they would not have to put their cars on a ship and transport them across the ocean.
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posted on
08/07/2023 3:54:27 PM PDT
by
Bernard
("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
To: Yo-Yo
SOOOOOOOOOOO— A burning ship—including EV’s is OK-—BUT DAIRY COWS ARE NOT?????
To: desertsolitaire
I can see ships refusing to transport EVs not far off in the future.
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posted on
08/07/2023 3:56:24 PM PDT
by
rottndog
(What comes after America?)
To: george76
Last sentence of the AP article: The cause of the blaze has not been established.
Betcha at least on EV was involved.
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posted on
08/07/2023 4:45:02 PM PDT
by
upchuck
(EV owners should ONLY be able to charge their cars with wind and solar, otherwise it's just pretend.)
To: rottndog
If ships wont take them I can’t imagine cargo planes would fly them either. Also prohibitively expensive. That leaves domestic production for domestic consumption and rail carriers or being driven to destinations. Do car ferries still allow them aboard?
To: monkeyshine
This chance of EVs going up in smoke is going to raise the insurance rates. What a punch in the gut these EV owners are going to get, down the road, when the chickens come home to roost.
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posted on
08/07/2023 5:22:50 PM PDT
by
jonrick46
(Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
To: rottndog
Unfortunately the lithium batteries as currently formulated release oxygen as they burn, thus fueling the fire. That and the thermal runaway are why they are so hard to extinguish.
CC
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posted on
08/07/2023 5:24:34 PM PDT
by
Celtic Conservative
(My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
To: desertsolitaire
Some ferries now refuse to carry EVs.
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posted on
08/07/2023 5:26:11 PM PDT
by
rottndog
(What comes after America?)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
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posted on
08/07/2023 6:04:57 PM PDT
by
squirt
(POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED, FOR THE SAME REASON)
To: squirt
Our company bought a brand new car off the show room floor. One day when walking past it I noticed the paint on the trunk and right wheel panels was just a slight different shade of color, not noticeable to most people.
A quick examination by our in house mechanical team showed this brand new automobile had severe hidden damage to the back half of the car and had been bondoed and repainted. Definitely not hail damage. Much worse.
I bought a truck which I later found had been submerged in a lake, when everything began to fail on it. No warranty.
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posted on
08/07/2023 6:21:17 PM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
To: wjcsux
Given the amount they may have to pay out for this disaster I would guess very quickly once they know for sure.
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posted on
08/07/2023 6:33:08 PM PDT
by
xp38
To: xp38
Could you imagine if a train loaded with a bunch of EV’s caught fire in a railroad tunnel? It would be hell on earth.
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posted on
08/07/2023 7:41:55 PM PDT
by
wjcsux
(On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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