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Judge ruled Texas’ abortion ban is too restrictive for women with pregnancy complications
The New York Post ^ | 08/04/2023 | Staff AP

Posted on 08/05/2023 2:32:43 AM PDT by thegagline

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Here is the Democrat Judge with her unaborted baby


1 posted on 08/05/2023 2:32:43 AM PDT by thegagline
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To: thegagline

Another “judge” Legislating by decree.


2 posted on 08/05/2023 3:40:26 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: thegagline

German law allows the pregnancy to be interrupted after the first trimester for a serious matter BUT THIS ISN’T A RIGHT TO AN ABORTION. The life of the baby has to be saved if this is reasonably possible.

In this Texas case, according to the news story, we’re talking of babies that would not survive birth. Possibly, ectopic pregnancies which are not only harmful to the baby but also to the mother. A termination of the pregnancy THAT IS NOT AN ABORTION might be able to save both. We live in an age of miracles. Let’s think life. Not abortion.


3 posted on 08/05/2023 3:57:21 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

States rights.


4 posted on 08/05/2023 4:27:39 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: thegagline

What LAW did the judge cite to bolster her ruling? We are in a place where judges use their feelings instead of law. In doing so, these judges set themselves up as a higher authority than elected legislators.


5 posted on 08/05/2023 4:34:05 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Ephesians 6:10 - 18)
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The immediate impact of State District Judge Jessica Mangrum’s decision was unclear in Texas, where all abortion clinics have shuttered in the past year.


6 posted on 08/05/2023 5:34:05 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: thegagline

All of this would be fixed by having abortions done in real medical clinics. Abortions are performed in the Port-A-John of medical facilities to keep the costs down.


7 posted on 08/05/2023 5:46:21 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: thegagline

Late term abortion to protect the health of the mother is NEVER needed.

Once the baby is viable, it can be delivered and put in NICU. There is NO need to kill it to *save* the mother’s life.

Life threatening complications rarely occur earlier on in the pregnancy.

The ONLY complication that justifies ending the pregnancy is an ectopic pregnancy, and that has NEVER been considered an abortion. Ectopic pregnancies are fatal when the Fallopian tube ruptures and if it does, the baby is dead anyway, so it’s not even aborting the pregnancy to deal with that medical emergency.


8 posted on 08/05/2023 6:49:36 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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Late term abortion to protect the health of the mother is NEVER needed.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) refuted that idea in a statement released this week, stating that pregnant women may experience conditions such as “premature rupture of membranes and infection, preeclampsia, placental abruption, and placenta accreta” late in pregnancy that may endanger their lives.

“Women in these circumstances may risk extensive blood loss, stroke, and septic shock that could lead to maternal death. Politicians must never require a doctor to wait for a medical condition to worsen and become life-threatening before being able to provide evidence-based care to their patients, including an abortion,” the ACOG said.

9 posted on 08/05/2023 7:40:16 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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Here is the Democrat Judge with her unaborted baby

So who's the kid?

-PJ

10 posted on 08/05/2023 7:44:20 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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In which of those cases, would the mother die if an emergency C-Section was done instead of an abortion?


11 posted on 08/05/2023 8:01:32 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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Why put a mother through a c-section when the baby is dead?


12 posted on 08/05/2023 8:08:15 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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Not all of them would be stillborn. If they baby is already dead, I don’t think that’s an abortion.


13 posted on 08/05/2023 8:13:19 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: thegagline

Is the judge a doctor?


14 posted on 08/05/2023 8:19:58 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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Abortion is NOT needed.

Deliver the baby early and put it in NICU and save the baby’s life.


15 posted on 08/05/2023 8:36:01 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Gunslingr3

If the baby is dead, it’s not an abortion in the sense that involves the killing the baby under the pretense of saving them mother’s life.

And nobody is telling the doctors to do nothing while the mother’s condition worsens

There are other medical options besides killing the baby to treat the mother.


16 posted on 08/05/2023 8:38:13 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom

And nearly all medical professionals must know this?


17 posted on 08/05/2023 8:41:28 AM PDT by Leep (What skill or service did the biden family have that netted them tens of millions of dollars?)
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To: Leep

You would think.....

But having seen the medical community in action over the last few years, I am not convinced they have our best interests at heart in spite of the few that actually do care and do no harm.


18 posted on 08/05/2023 8:44:31 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Redmen4ever
Possibly, ectopic pregnancies which are not only harmful to the baby but also to the mother. A termination of the pregnancy THAT IS NOT AN ABORTION might be able to save both.

Ectopic "pregnancies" aren't just harmful for the baby, they are not survivable. Implantation outside the uterus isn;t even medically considered an actual pregnancy. And we don't have the medical capability to even attempt to transplant the fetus into the uterus. Removing an ectopic "pregnancy" is completely legal in all 50 States.

And I'm not sure how you plan to save both if one is terminated..?
19 posted on 08/05/2023 4:37:58 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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I used the phrase, from the German law, if possible. If you know the state of medicine with respect to ectopic pregnancies, you can speak to the matter.

I’ll give an example that involved a friend of mine. A fellow ROTC cadet. I’ll just give his name as John. His mom had a choice during his pregnancy. Either she or her baby could be saved. She choose to give up her life so her son could live. This was not required by law or by the Catholic Church. She freely gave her life. John always felt her spirit strong with him. And he resolved to live his life well so he could meet her in the next life, not that he or any of us is perfect. Nowadays, with advances in medicine, I presume both could live.


20 posted on 08/05/2023 6:17:14 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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