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CNN Poll: Majority of Americans oppose more US aid for Ukraine in war with Russia
CNN via Yahoo ^ | August 4th, 2023 | Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director

Posted on 08/04/2023 12:36:48 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: ought-six
"Oh, but you did."

I asked you to give me the exact quote where I said "I personally believed" that in the 60's, if a female enlisted in the military, that she was a dyke. You didn't provide that. All you did was assert that's what I "meant" from my general comment about the stereotypes of that time, ergo, putting words in my mouth. Please don't try to psycho-analyze my comments, or tell me what I really meant by them. By doing so, you come across as rigid, obsessive and controlling.

“Home-grown” means Americans in America"

You might want to tell the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. That's not the definition they provide. They don't even use the terms America or Americans, so it looks like you're putting words in their mouth too.

Home grown:

1. grown or produced at home or in a particular local area, ie., homegrown vegetables; homegrown films

2. native to or characteristic of a particular area

The U.S. government is enabling foreign enemies to come here unfettered, and unvetted, so they can repeatedly violate our national security, build illegal labs, steal technology and top secret information unencumbered. If they weren't enabling, it wouldn't keep happening. They would have tightened up security to prevent it from happening over and over.

I consider the fact that the U.S. government's failure, or deliberate failure to control the influx of these people is providing conditions for these individuals to organize, and become "home grown" here. Once they are here in America, any untoward criminal acts they participate in throughout the country, are "home grown," specifically directed to doing damage to this country, in whatever particular region they choose to establish themselves. They plant themselves in a certain part of the country, and then blossom from there. Thus, they become "home grown" Chi-com networks running throughout the country.

As far as history goes, the study of it, whether one should be emotional about it, or not, is something we're never going to agree on. Obviously, you are in no position to judge me one way or another. You don't even know me, or my work, and you are no expert on the subject, like you are no expert on what you claim I meant in my comments.

141 posted on 08/05/2023 6:57:36 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Why don’t you send him my post #140, which is my response? Let him see both arguments. It’s no wonder you are such a poor historian.


142 posted on 08/05/2023 7:00:53 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Please cry some more, I love it!!


143 posted on 08/05/2023 7:08:05 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

“I asked you to give me the exact quote where I said “I personally believed” that in the 60’s, if a female enlisted in the military, that she was a dyke. You didn’t provide that.”

Nice try. That is an old tactic of the left: Change the wording and make your opponent respond to that change. AKA strawman.

In any event, I showed you where you libeled women in the military.

“You might want to tell the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. That’s not the definition they provide. They don’t even use the terms America or Americans, so it looks like you’re putting words in their mouth too.”

Good grief, but you are childish. We were talking about threats and the Chinese lab in California that was just recently discovered. That is in America. It is not a home-grown threat because it was a Chinese-operated lab, with no mention of Americans being involved. It was originated by and operated by Chinese nationals. Thus, it was not “home-grown.” And, why, for Pete’s sake, would Merriam-Webster define “home-grown” as having a specific connection to America or Americans? What a ridiculous implication on your part. And, of course, we are not talking about vegetables that are commonly grown in California’s Central Valley. But, at least your cited definition does include the definition “native to or characteristic of a particular area.” Which clearly eliminates the Chinese-operated lab as home-grown. Neither the lab nor the operators are native to or characteristic of Reedley, CA.

You go on to say that our lack of border control makes the Chinese lab in California and similar dangerous operations home-grown. That is simply not accurate. If some foreign actor sneaks across the US border and plants a time bomb in a building in New York and then hauls ass and the bomb detonates, that is NOT home-grown. But, an American citizen from, say, Rochester, NY, doing that very same thing WOULD be home-grown.

“As far as history goes, the study of it, whether one should be emotional about it, or not, is something we’re never going to agree on. Obviously, you are in no position to judge me one way or another. You don’t even know me, or my work, and you are no expert on the subject, like you are no expert on what you claim I meant in my comments.”

I know enough about history and scholarship to conclude that you’d be a failure as a historian.

You’d be better served to forego history, and take up reading romance novels, or fantasies, or poetry, or some other such literature that would be dependent on emotion.


144 posted on 08/05/2023 7:38:28 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: mass55th

Nice try. I’m merely pointing out that you fail when it comes to objectivity.

Stick with the emotion of romance novels and poetry, as objectivity is not required.


145 posted on 08/05/2023 7:41:05 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
"Nice try. I’m merely pointing out that you fail when it comes to objectivity."

Says The Great Karnak, who insists they can read people's minds through their comments.

146 posted on 08/05/2023 8:52:49 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: ought-six

Hell, people have been FLEEING Russia ever since the 1990s, such that Russia has a population problem (i.e., not enough population to sustain itself).==

It is NOT true. Actually a lot of people try to move to Russia. From middle Asia for example. And from same Ukraine today too. More 2 mlns of former Ukrainians only for all years.

In 2022 Russia citizenship was acquired by more than half of million people.
https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20230131/grazhdanstvo-1848582542.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US

Also Russia has a population of illegal aliens bigger about as US. It is a fact.

You have no one to blame for that but Russia. ==

SO if someone hates you and what to do many bad things that it is YOUR fault not his? Sounds like truly victim mentality.

No Russia won’t do this. She rather will do something about it and eliminate the threat.


147 posted on 08/05/2023 10:20:17 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: desertsolitaire

Then we will as well. No more giving in to Russian nuclear blackmail. F*ck them. Put in or shut up. ==

You sound like you don’t have children. Or any folk for same matter.

They won’t do it. Putin will chicken out.==

What if you are mistaking? Are ready to gamble on your survival?


148 posted on 08/05/2023 10:23:48 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

It is the people running Joe Biden from the shadows who have apparently decided this is the course the US is on. They don’t care what I think or you. They dont care who has kids or not. And yes they apparently do think Putin is bluffing and are refusing g to give in to his his nuclear blackmail threats. It will be interesting to see where this goes. I hope we survive.


149 posted on 08/06/2023 3:58:00 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: mass55th

“Says The Great Karnak, who insists they can read people’s minds through their comments.”

No; your words do that for you; and they are not doing you any favors.


150 posted on 08/06/2023 8:44:28 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Still can’t quote my exact words to prove your claim. Sad.


151 posted on 08/06/2023 10:52:20 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: desertsolitaire

And yes they apparently do think Putin is bluffing and are refusing g to give in to his his nuclear blackmail threats. It will be interesting to see where this goes. I hope we survive.==

You hope absolutely ungrounded. Better pray. I do.


152 posted on 08/06/2023 1:05:56 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4173304/posts

I see this today and think you are right.


153 posted on 08/06/2023 1:58:40 PM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: mass55th

“Still can’t quote my exact words to prove your claim. Sad.”

Nice try. I DID cite your exact words; and your exact words sink you. That your exact works don’t conform to what you want them to be — or wish them to be to change your narrative — is your problem, not mine.


154 posted on 08/06/2023 2:06:36 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Mariner

Biden needs to pay American taxpayers back for the bribes he and his whore-monger son took...


155 posted on 08/06/2023 2:07:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (What are the odds both Biden WH idogs would only bite Secret Service Agents? NOT ONE CHANCE IN HELL)
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To: mass55th

“Still can’t quote my exact words to prove your claim. Sad.”

Nice try. I DID cite your exact words; and your exact words sink you. That your exact words don’t conform to what you want them to be — or wish them to be to change your narrative — is your problem, not mine.


156 posted on 08/06/2023 2:18:00 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Mariner

An Obama rant from 2016.
Why not? He’s STILL RUNNING THE WHITE HOUSE VIA HIS PUPPET BIDEN!
https://youtu.be/WhkyRZoHlTM


157 posted on 08/06/2023 2:22:17 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (=uran)
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To: Mariner

An Obama rant from 2016.
Why not? He’s STILL RUNNING THE WHITE HOUSE VIA HIS PUPPET BIDEN!
https://youtu.be/WhkyRZoHlTM


158 posted on 08/06/2023 2:24:31 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (=uran)
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To: ought-six

So unsure you had to post it twice. Fail.


159 posted on 08/06/2023 2:28:14 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

“So unsure you had to post it twice. Fail.”

No; there was a typo. And I wanted to be very clear, in case you came back to assault the typo, and tried to make an issue with that typo.

Just keeping the record straight. Which — if you were any kind of archivist (which I doubt) — you’d understand.


160 posted on 08/06/2023 2:36:30 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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