Posted on 07/26/2023 6:29:42 PM PDT by McGruff
Edited on 07/27/2023 4:59:48 AM PDT by Chris Robinson. [history]
If American acted like Muskovy does, we’d have occupation forces from the Mexican border all the way to Brazil.
A lot easier to defend against an attack from Finland. It works both ways, which is why the USSR had such trouble in the Winter War.
Ukraine / Russia 1991 border is a stone marker in a farmer’s field. There are no natural defensive terrain until you reach the outskirts of Moscow.
Very vulnerable for Russia to have a hostile alliance on that border.
Russia is habitually an imperialistic state. This has not changed. Russia is still an imperial power, comprising a large number of conquered lands and peoples. Not all of them were “let go” in the course of the Soviet Union’s breakup.
And, worse, its clear that Russia still wants to get the band back together, whatever the other people in their sights think. I wonder what the Belorussians would say, in a truly free referendum, if they were given a choice between the EU and Russia?
The problem everyone has with this iteration of Russia is exactly that. And the invasion of Ukraine is the most egregious episode.
bkmk
The CTO - Caribbean Treaty Organization [or Caribbean Fellas Organization].
The Cuban Missile Fellas will be 200 miles from Miami.
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Or perhaps he is just a straight up corrupt lying sack just like all his peers.
200 miles from Miami, as the Kinzhal flies.
Then Russia should never have acted hostile.
Nato was a dead letter as of 2/2022. Most of the swords had been beaten to plowshares. Everyone on the Russian side has been mocking them for a year, for lacking ammo and Leopards, etc. Merkel and Co. made fun of Trump for pressing them and their pals to take their commitments seriously.
You cannot keep the threatening Nato idea in the same head as the pathetic weakling Nato. Does not compute.
I think in the end, when the Neocons are forced to BEG FORGIVENESS from the Russians (once Russia is finished spanking them in Ukraine), there will be some kind of Cuban Missile Crisis type deal that precludes Neocon aggression and also keeps the Russian nukes out of Cuba.
If not, I would expect both Russia and China to start working on Mexico...
“not one inch east of Germany”
Don’t let anyone tell you that wasn’t the understanding. Here it is in their own words. 14 eastern dominos later, NATO has parked the greatest offensive military behemoth the world has ever seen on their border. Sitting 300 miles from Moscow, they scream forced regime change. Of course, WWIII is on the other side of the Donbas red line.
Having a hostile country or alliance on an indefensible border is always a bad idea.
Even if they are currently disarmed fags.
Germany 1920 vs 1940 border with Belgium.
“Having a hostile country or alliance on an indefensible border is always a bad idea.”
Welcome to Poland! And most of Eastern Europe.
The Belgian border with Germany was quite heavily fortified. Also in 1914. Modern fortresses and river/canal lines.
There’s nothing there now but those rivers and canals.
Way, way worse is the Franco-Belgian border. Nothing between Lille and Brussels but a bunch of cows and chocolate shops.
Why is that?
Think what the U.S. would do if Russia engaged in a military alliance with Canada and Mexico and constructed missile bases right on our borders in those countries.
The U.S. supported, armed and trained the military of the far-right-wing, unelected fascist-influenced Ukrainian leadership, which outlawed the then-widespread speaking of Russian in Ukraine and adopted a hostile and uncompromising stance toward Russia, which had a centuries-long close relationship with Ukraine.
Since Ukraine has conducted atrocities and relentlessly assaulted the eastern part of Ukraine for eight years, it has lost its claim over these areas and should be forced to relinquish them to an independent state or to annexation by Russia.
What’s missing between France, Belgium and Germany these days is hostility.
Russia seems to like hostility. There is something badly wrong with those people.
“disarmed fags” aren’t going to march on Moscow nohow.
“Having a hostile country or alliance on an indefensible border is always a bad idea.”
Welcome to Poland! And most of Eastern Europe.
You got it buddy ! You are almost there !
All you need to do now is to make the leap to the idea that if the borders are defensible, there will be less wars !
The missile systems are air defense against inbound missiles.
News bits:
In May 2011, the United States and Romania jointly selected the Deveselu Air Base near Caracal, Romania, to host a U.S. land-based SM-3 interceptor
May 12, 2016: Aegis Ashore facility in Deveselu is the first of two sites planned as part of the U.S. and NATO’s BMD network
What’s a “missile base”?
Dump the rhetoric. Talk facts.
The US didn’t arm Ukraine other than very marginally (Javelins) pre-2022.
The rest of your points are propaganda.
the Whole thing is a Money Laundering scheme.
Yeah, because the threat perception was entirely the other way.
The only way that Russia can get a “defensible border” by that standard is when it advances to the Rhine and Danube.
Nope. The whole thing is propaganda in aid of an imperialist urge.
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