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British Foreign Secretary James Cleverly has a message for Republicans who want to turn their backs on Ukraine: America is at its strongest when it embraces the world
Daily Mail ^ | July 19, 2023 | Rob Crilly

Posted on 07/19/2023 11:34:40 PM PDT by Angelino97

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To: Angelino97

CORRECT, LET THEM DUKE IT OUT WITH OUT GETTING OUR KIDS KILLED.


41 posted on 07/20/2023 3:40:08 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
America’s economic dominance requires it.

So blood must be spilled for the economy's sake.

Hard to base patriotic war movies, poems, and songs on that theme.

"Let us honor our brave warriors who died to keep inflation below 5%."

42 posted on 07/20/2023 3:41:17 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: FLT-bird
Anywhere in Africa is yet another example.

You mean you don't want to bring democracy to Somalia? Don't you know that inside every Somali Muslim is a Jeffersonian liberal struggling to get out?

43 posted on 07/20/2023 3:45:31 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Reverend Wright

NOT OUR WAR!


44 posted on 07/20/2023 3:48:28 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: Angelino97

Time to pull the plug. If you want to fight it, you fight. Leave us alone.

NO MORE BLOOD and TREASURE!


45 posted on 07/20/2023 3:49:13 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: kabar

No, we can’t we are teetering on economic collapse now.


46 posted on 07/20/2023 3:50:22 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: Angelino97
Who funds the Aspen Institute?

The Aspen Institute is largely funded by foundations such as the Carnegie Corporation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, the Gates Foundation, the Lumina Foundation, and the Ford Foundation, by seminar fees, and by individual donations.

Wikipedia....

47 posted on 07/20/2023 3:55:07 AM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: kabar

Ukraine is the new money laundering machine for all those supporting it


48 posted on 07/20/2023 4:03:22 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Angelino97

Agree.. this idiot wants us involved because he wants the US to pay for their problems. F’ Ukraine and Russia and Europe and the UK.


49 posted on 07/20/2023 4:06:54 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Angelino97

Yet another foreigner trying to tell us how to be American.


50 posted on 07/20/2023 4:10:05 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan; Angelino97; woodpusher
Secondly, letting Putin win in Ukraine means a war over Taiwan, and military conflict with China would be inevitable.

There's no causal relationship between what Russia is doing in Ukraine and China's long-term plans for Taiwan, so you're making a lot of assumptions there.

Besides, why would China be interested in war with the US when they already have some many of our politicians on payroll?

51 posted on 07/20/2023 4:10:38 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Angelino97

FU UK!


52 posted on 07/20/2023 4:23:17 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: b4me

“America is at it’s strongest when it (people) embraces God and His son, Jesus.”

Amen to that!


53 posted on 07/20/2023 4:24:35 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Reverend Wright

Further proof the UK is lost and beyond repair.


54 posted on 07/20/2023 4:24:58 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Angelino97

STFU, Limey!


55 posted on 07/20/2023 4:27:14 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Angelino97

The years 2016-2019 beg to differ with James’ opinion.


56 posted on 07/20/2023 4:31:42 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: SMARTY

… No one likes us
I don’t know why
We may not be perfect
But heaven knows we try
But all around
Even our old friends put us down
Let’s drop the big one
And see what happens

… We give them money
But are they grateful
No, they’re spiteful
And they’re hateful
They don’t respect us
So let’s surprise them
We’ll drop the big one
And pulverize them

… Asia’s crowded
And Europe’s too old
Africa’s far too hot
And Canada’s too cold
And South America stole our name
Let’s drop the big one
There’ll be no one left to blame us

… We’ll save Australia
Don’t want to hurt no kangaroo
We’ll build an all American amusement park there
They’ve got surfing, too

… Boom goes London
And boom Paris
More room for you
And more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it’ll be
We’ll set everybody free
You’ll have Japanese kimonos, baby

There’ll be Italian shoes for me
They all hate us anyhow
So let’s drop the big one now
Let’s drop the big one now

-Randy Newman


57 posted on 07/20/2023 4:31:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Phony straw man. The choice isn’t between isolationism and being the world’s policeman. We can’t continue to get into endless, proxy wars that weaken us. We are the world’s biggest debtor nation. Our annual debt servicing costs are $500 billion a year and will exceed our current defense budget by the end of the decade. We spend more on defense than the next 10.countries combined.

In addition to our national debt of $32 trillion, we have over $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities in the form of Medicare and Social Security. In 2028, 5 years from now, the Medicare Trust Fund (HI) is exhausted, and in 2034 the SSTF goes bust. By law, benefits will have to be reduced to revenue received, which translates into a cut in benefits for both programs of 20%. In order to keep both programs solvent, we will have to increase payroll taxes or reduce benefits or some combination thereof. Defense spending is considered discretionary. Increasingly, the US will have to make some hard choices on guns versus butter, and butter usually wins because it has more constituents.

Define what is letting Putin win means. Are you saying that Ukraine must return to its 1991 borders? If Putin keeps the territory he currently holds, including Crimea, is that winning?

Are you saying that China will not invade Taiwan if Putin “loses” in Ukraine? I can remember how the Domino Theory got us involved in Vietnam. We can’t afford the billions we are investing in Ukraine. Zelensky estimates it will cost 800 billion to rebuild Ukraine, which was one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe before the war.


58 posted on 07/20/2023 4:39:44 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Reverend Wright

This guy looks like Idi Amin.

Not even close.


59 posted on 07/20/2023 4:40:57 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: kabar

China already has Taiwan, they just don’t want us to know it. They’ve got moles everywhere in the government and industry there. Any secrets we share with Taiwan go straight to Beijing.


60 posted on 07/20/2023 4:42:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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