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Michigan attorney general charges fake Trump electors over alleged 2020 election crimes
CNBC ^ | 7/18/2023 | Dan Mangan

Posted on 07/18/2023 2:59:01 PM PDT by trustverify0128

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To: frank ballenger

Well, you certainly have a dramatic flair.


41 posted on 07/18/2023 4:28:57 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: trustverify0128

Drunken dyke


42 posted on 07/18/2023 4:39:31 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: trustverify0128

democrats have presented other slates of electors in the past.

But, like everything with Trump, it is only illegal when Trump does it.


43 posted on 07/18/2023 4:39:37 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: usconservative

“Counting Electoral Votes: An Overview of Procedures at the Joint Session, Including Objections by Members of Congress”

“The law instructs the electors to attach to these lists a certificate furnished to them by the governor”

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL32717/12

So much for “uttering and publishing” as they lacked the requisite certificates.


44 posted on 07/18/2023 4:48:53 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Danie_2023

see post #25


45 posted on 07/18/2023 4:51:48 PM PDT by trustverify0128
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To: trustverify0128

Thanks.


46 posted on 07/18/2023 4:52:42 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You referring to Hawaii in 1960? Any other?


47 posted on 07/18/2023 5:03:20 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: trustverify0128

From a 2005 challenge to Ohio’s electoral votes, quotes:

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee found “numerous, serious election irregularities”

“How can we possibly tell millions of Americans who registered to vote, who came to the polls in record numbers, particularly our young people ... to simply get over it and move on?” [Stephanie] Tubbs Jones

https://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote.1718/


48 posted on 07/18/2023 5:04:53 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Brian Griffin

We are edging up to “questioning” being a crime.


49 posted on 07/18/2023 5:14:10 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: trustverify0128

For the 1960 election Hawaii sent elector counts for Nixon and then for Kennedy after Kennedy won a recount.

Vice President Nixon, presiding, suggested going with the latter, which was done.

page 9:
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL32717/12


50 posted on 07/18/2023 5:18:33 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: trustverify0128

[revised since the election]

3 U.S. Code § 5 - Certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors
(a)In General.—
(1)Certification.—
Not later than the date that is 6 days before the time fixed for the meeting of the electors, the executive of each State shall issue a certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors, under and in pursuance of the laws of such State providing for such appointment and ascertainment enacted prior to election day.
(2)Form of certificate.—Each certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors shall—
(A)set forth the names of the electors appointed and the canvass or other determination under the laws of such State of the number of votes given or cast for each person for whose appointment any and all votes have been given or cast;
(B)bear the seal of the State; and
(C)contain at least one security feature, as determined by the State, for purposes of verifying the authenticity of such certificate.
(b)Transmission.—It shall be the duty of the executive of each State—
(1)to transmit to the Archivist of the United States, immediately after the issuance of a certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors and by the most expeditious method available, such certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors; and
(2)to transmit to the electors of such State, on or before the day on which the electors are required to meet under section 7, six duplicate-originals of the same certificate.
(c)Treatment of Certificate as Conclusive.—For purposes of section 15:
(1)In general.—
(A)Certificate issued by executive.—
Except as provided in subparagraph (B), a certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors issued pursuant to subsection (a)(1) shall be treated as conclusive in Congress with respect to the determination of electors appointed by the State.
(B)Certificates issued pursuant to court orders.—
Any certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors required to be issued or revised by any State or Federal judicial relief granted prior to the date of the meeting of electors shall replace and supersede any other certificates submitted pursuant to this section.
(2)Determination of federal questions.—
The determination of Federal courts on questions arising under the Constitution or laws of the United States with respect to a certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors shall be conclusive in Congress.
(d)Venue and Expedited Procedure.—
(1)In general.—Any action brought by an aggrieved candidate for President or Vice President that arises under the Constitution or laws of the United States with respect to the issuance of the certification required under section (a)(1), or the transmission of such certification as required under subsection (b), shall be subject to the following rules:
(A)Venue.—
The venue for such action shall be the Federal district court of the Federal district in which the State capital is located.
(B)3-judge panel.—Such action shall be heard by a district court of three judges, convened pursuant to section 2284 of title 28, United States Code, except that—
(i)the court shall be comprised of two judges of the circuit court of appeals in which the district court lies and one judge of the district court in which the action is brought; and
(ii)section 2284(b)(2) of such title shall not apply.
(C)Expedited procedure.—
It shall be the duty of the court to advance on the docket and to expedite to the greatest possible extent the disposition of the action, consistent with all other relevant deadlines established by this chapter and the laws of the United States.
(D)Appeals.—
Notwithstanding section 1253 of title 28, United States Code, the final judgment of the panel convened under subparagraph (B) may be reviewed directly by the Supreme Court, by writ of certiorari granted upon petition of any party to the case, on an expedited basis, so that a final order of the court on remand of the Supreme Court may occur on or before the day before the time fixed for the meeting of electors.
(2)Rule of construction.—This subsection—
(A)shall be construed solely to establish venue and expedited procedures in any action brought by an aggrieved candidate for President or Vice President as specified in this subsection that arises under the Constitution or laws of the United States; and
(B)shall not be construed to preempt or displace any existing State or Federal cause of action.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 644, 62 Stat. 673; Pub. L. 117–328, div. P, title I, § 104(a), Dec. 29, 2022, 136 Stat. 5234.)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/5


51 posted on 07/18/2023 5:31:47 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: trustverify0128

It has precedent, and is not a crime to serve as an alternative Elector in a contested election result. He’s trying to squeeze them so they cooperate in concocting charges against Trump. This is getting tedious.


52 posted on 07/18/2023 5:32:15 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: trustverify0128

Unfrickinbelievable.


53 posted on 07/18/2023 5:34:29 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. Never be a slave in a new Socialist America)
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To: Fuzz

happened in the 1800’s also


54 posted on 07/18/2023 5:45:04 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: trustverify0128

Soon, they will criminally charge anyone they can prove voted for Donald Trump.


55 posted on 07/18/2023 6:08:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: trustverify0128

This radical commie is using this as a distraction for the next illegal ballot drop after midnight downtown Detroit to steal the election away from Trump in MI just like the rats did last time. Everything will be covered and boarded up, no cameras and so forth to steal the election once again.


56 posted on 07/18/2023 6:25:51 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“And a drunk!

Good memory! I saw a couple clips after the game, what an embarrassment to this nation, state, and the office of AG.


57 posted on 07/18/2023 6:30:04 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: Dennis M.
>Needs to go right to the Supreme Court.

Let me predict the future for you ... No standing.

58 posted on 07/18/2023 6:46:41 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: frank ballenger

“Dems for the first time in decades control the Gov.,Sec. of State, Attorney General, the state supreme court, state House and state Senate.”

Why do you think this is? I would suggest that between these stupid state term limits and arguably the worst state level GOPe in the nation it was only a matter of time. I will always be embarrassed that so many candidates for a GOP guv had fake signatures gathered by rats. Amazing. Same thing that got McCotter years back. I am of the belief that enough conservatives have stayed home in recent years as we have realized that voting for the lesser of evils wasn’t any better than staying home.


59 posted on 07/18/2023 6:54:30 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: trustverify0128

2nd Amendment. Now.


60 posted on 07/18/2023 7:07:13 PM PDT by Chengdu54
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