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Kramatorsk: Pizzaria Scam as Russians Destroy Hotel Housing US/UK Special Forces Advisors/Contractors
THE INTEL DROP ^ | June 28, 2023 | INTEL-DROP

Posted on 06/28/2023 1:11:17 PM PDT by Kazan

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To: ansel12

Maybe you should call Maj. Gen. JP McGee and let him know that:

https://www.army.mil/101stAirborne#org-about


41 posted on 06/28/2023 3:02:17 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: dforest

The Russians weren’t going after the foreign mercs, they were targeting a meeting of Ukrainian commanders at the 56th Motor Brigade HQ.

I agree it’s careless to wear American gear there, but these mercs are just like that. They like to look cool. It’s certainly a tipoff the guy is really a merc not currently serving (if he ever did) and is not a “gray suitcase”.


42 posted on 06/28/2023 3:10:53 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

Read the link you posted, he already knows his troops are not paratroopers (Airborne), they are helicopter troops, (Air Assault).


43 posted on 06/28/2023 3:15:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

You can’t stand to be wrong, so you change the definition of “airborne” to mean *only* paratroopers (when in modern use it includes both air assault and paratroopers).

Maybe you should call up the good general and tell him he needs to change the name of 101st Airborne to 101st Non-Paratroopers to suit your definition.


44 posted on 06/28/2023 3:27:26 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: dangus
The Russian propaganda in this case is weaker than usual. That's probably because they launched a missile into a restaurant full of civilians and aid workers from across the world. And yet again the Russian military killed and injured innocent children.

Among the people present at the restaurant were a couple of guys from the Netherlands that have been driving around Ukraine bringing french fries and other snacks to the elderly, children, and others in need. They regularly post videos of their efforts, and they were in the restaurant.

You can see their videos Here on Youtube

Their video shows the immediate aftermath of the attack. One of them has somebody else's blood splattered all over him.

You can see the police arriving, and soldiers arriving to help.

You can also see that the hotel next door to the restaurant is not damaged except for broken windows. The entire story about the hotel being hit is just not true.

You can see for yourself what building got hit in the attack. It isn't the multi-story hotel next to the restaurant.

Our Russian propaganda posters here on Free Republic have shown their true colors today. They are supporting terrorists who intentionally bomb civilians.

45 posted on 06/28/2023 3:41:00 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Campion
Take a look at the video. No military people at all, just civilians.
46 posted on 06/28/2023 3:47:30 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kazan
So Kazan, which dead or injured Ukrainian makes you happiest? Is it the young girls that got killed? Or the wounded baby?


47 posted on 06/28/2023 3:54:33 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: silverleaf
Question is whether these guys are ex-military or active troops on special assignment as advisors.

The answer is none of the above. The people present are Ukrainian civilians and aid workers. They guy in the white shirt provides food to people in need. You can read all about him here .

48 posted on 06/28/2023 3:56:52 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: silverleaf

No doubt we have “special operators” on the ground there, but those guys in the videos aren’t. See my post #42.


49 posted on 06/28/2023 4:01:24 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: McGruff
The issues hit the hotel.

Do you have to use google translate to post? Regardless of the talking points you might have, the rocket or rockets hit the restaurant, not the hotel. You can see that from the videos taken in the immediate aftermath. See my other post for links.

50 posted on 06/28/2023 4:06:35 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: CatHerd

The posts you jumped in on were about paratroopers, and parachutes, not helicopter-delivered soldiers.

As an ex-paratrooper, I have never heard any soldier or veteran in my entire life, including in my veteran’s group describe himself as Airborne who wasn’t a paratrooper, but regardless, the post I responded to was about the 101st and parachutes.


51 posted on 06/28/2023 4:06:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Kazan

interesting
definitely a military target
Z sure lies a lot


52 posted on 06/28/2023 4:20:33 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: freeandfreezing
This from someone that is rooting for the side in this war that has INTENTIONALLY targeted civilians in Donetsk city ON DAILY BASIS? The Ukrainian military used civilians as human shields in Mariupol. The Ukrainians have shelled a nuclear power plant and tried to cause nuclear reaction meltdown. They recently blew up dam that killed multiple civilians.

And, we blew Nord Stream pipelines in one of the most egregious acts on international terrorism in recent history.

So, take you Biden regime lies and propaganda and ram it up your neocon ass.

The rest of the world outside of the west knows the truth about this war and every we did to make it happen and keep it going. And, the average American that is going to suffer because of it, you disgusting scumbag.

53 posted on 06/28/2023 4:20:36 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

bidencrats

destroying the earth

blessings

God can restructer that

w / o dems - liberals

halleluJah


54 posted on 06/28/2023 4:26:45 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: Kazan; TexasGator; UMCRevMom@aol.com
June 28, 2023

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1673995946219253761

The SSU [#СБУ Security Service of Ukraine] detained an agent of the Russian special services who corrected a Russian missile attack on a cafe in the center of Kramatorsk on June 27 [2023], the head of the SSU, Vasyl Malyuk, said.

According to the investigation, the enemy agent is a resident of Kramatorsk, an employee of the local gas transportation company.

Previously, he was remotely recruited by the Russian game, and during a full-scale invasion, he was "activated" and assigned the task of gathering intelligence about the bases and movements of the Defense Forces in Sloviansk and Kramatorsk.

Video at the link.

55 posted on 06/28/2023 4:30:56 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Kazan
You are just repeating Russian propaganda. Russia blew up the dam, Russia is endangering the nuclear power plant, and even the governments of the DPR and LPR don't support your claims about civilian deaths in the Donbass.

Why don't you take a look at the people in the restaurant in this video. Are they what you Russians are afraid of?

56 posted on 06/28/2023 4:38:14 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

“the rocket or rockets hit the restaurant, not the hotel.”

Seek help. You need it.


57 posted on 06/28/2023 4:38:15 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff
the rocket or rockets hit the restaurant, not the hotel.

Sorry, you would know that too if you took a few minutes to watch the video I posted and look at google maps. The videos begin moments after the impact, before the smoke clears and before the police and ambulances arrive. You can see where the primary impact was, along with the resulting smoke and fire.

The hotel is the multi-story concrete building next door, not the smaller building that was hit.

I don't need help. You need to stop sucking up Russian propaganda and start looking at video, maps, and reality.

58 posted on 06/28/2023 4:45:44 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: McGruff
The tall building is the hotel. The Ria pizza restaurant is the building that was hit.

Another view from google maps

59 posted on 06/28/2023 4:51:19 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: dangus

There was the guy with the Primus Inter Pares patch. Slogan of the US First Air Defense Artillery (better known from before they added “Air” as the losers at Fort Sumter). Patch is significantly different, however.


60 posted on 06/28/2023 5:11:28 PM PDT by PAR35
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