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Germany Is Dragging Down Europe’s Economy
WSJ ^ | June 23, 2023 | Paul Hannon and Tom Fairless

Posted on 06/27/2023 9:57:48 AM PDT by george76

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To: 1Old Pro

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21 posted on 06/27/2023 11:11:47 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

Can’t wait to visit in a year or so. Need to have some relatives over for dinner who have/had family there to get the lowdown.


22 posted on 06/27/2023 11:17:35 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Thoughts? German deindustrialization doesn’t feel like winning....


23 posted on 06/27/2023 11:20:54 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: packrat35

Germany is committed to going green no matter what the cost and is no longer reliable to manufacturing.

France is still using nuclear power and has no plans to stop. So companies are shifting production to France.

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This is 100% the crux of the problem. I’ve said this in the past - Whatever Germany does, do the opposite. Germany is kind of like California in a lot of ways (Nuclear power, Immigration, LGBTQ).


24 posted on 06/27/2023 11:30:50 AM PDT by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: packrat35

Germany is committed to going green no matter what the cost and is no longer reliable to manufacturing.

France is still using nuclear power and has no plans to stop. So companies are shifting production to France.

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This is 100% the crux of the problem. I’ve said this in the past - Whatever Germany does, do the opposite. Germany is kind of like California in a lot of ways (Nuclear power, Immigration, LGBTQ).


25 posted on 06/27/2023 11:32:30 AM PDT by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Pretty much every form of plastic or polymer the Germans have been making from Russian natural gas.

Germany has found alternate sources to meet its energy needs, but it’s not close to finding enough chemical feed stock.


26 posted on 06/27/2023 11:43:44 AM PDT by jdege
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To: packrat35

You know its crazy if companies are willing to deal with French unions instead of have production in Germany.


27 posted on 06/27/2023 11:51:40 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Gen.Blather

I’m really surprised (disappointed in) at you: “I’m really impressed they didn’t bow to Russia’s energy blackmail.”
Do you mean after Washington’s arm twisting and Biden’s Nordstream terrorist act ?


28 posted on 06/27/2023 12:17:28 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: A strike

The Biden administration already had what wanted. So, sucy a move would be stupid. Gazprom probably destroyed the pipeline because they would otherwise have had to compensate their customers, per their contract, for an action their government took. Now they can claim force majeure* and not pay per their contract.

* This lets them out of the contract. Force majeure is an event or effect that cannot be reasonably anticipated or controlled.


29 posted on 06/27/2023 12:24:42 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: george76

Germany is screwed. They don’t have access to energy at a price that is remotely affordable. They chose to sacrifice their economy to Gaia.


30 posted on 06/27/2023 1:07:24 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Gen.Blather

They don’t even have any nuclear power plants anymore. The Greens demanded they sacrifice those too so they did.


31 posted on 06/27/2023 1:10:41 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Gen.Blather

“Gazprom probably destroyed the pipeline ...”
Adding you to the useful idiot list.


32 posted on 06/27/2023 1:11:54 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: woodbutcher1963
They still hate the French though.

In fairness to them, who doesn't?

33 posted on 06/27/2023 1:12:23 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: wildcard_redneck
Thoughts? German deindustrialization doesn’t feel like winning....
Winning what?
In regards to your Putin Stooge invasion of Ukraine?

Most of the world is in tough economic times.
For you brit:

UK economy in growth ‘doom loop’ as business investment slumps versus G7 peers

34 posted on 06/27/2023 10:00:22 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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