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Ukraine to encounter challenging battles, and there will be losses, but it can succeed – Pentagon
Ukrainska Pravda via Yahoo ^ | June 21st, 2023 | Ukrainska Pravda

Posted on 06/21/2023 11:40:14 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

What 14 year olds?

Where is your proof of all this?


61 posted on 06/21/2023 5:51:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

ansell2,
in May there were videos circulating of Ukraine military teams going along the streets and to homes and forcing young teens to leave for military service with them immediately. They were posted on FR among other websites. Perhaps you can still access them.


62 posted on 06/21/2023 5:53:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I watched a couple of those videos and had no idea what kind of arrest or whatever was taking place.

Do you have some proof for your claims of 14-year-olds being pulled from their mother’s arms or streets and then forced into the military?


63 posted on 06/21/2023 6:00:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

The video was the evidence.
Judge it for yourself.
If you have a strong interest, you should still be able to seek and find it.


64 posted on 06/21/2023 6:09:28 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So, like so much of this silly propaganda it is just more internet-made-up stuff.


65 posted on 06/21/2023 6:12:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Mariner

Bloodthirsty m***********s haven’t spoken a single word to either side about peace.


66 posted on 06/21/2023 6:14:18 PM PDT by OKSooner ("Oh, the mad fools!")
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To: Mariner

Bloodthirsty m***********s haven’t spoken a single word to either side about peace.


67 posted on 06/21/2023 6:14:21 PM PDT by OKSooner ("Oh, the mad fools!")
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To: ansel12
So, like so much of this silly propaganda it is just more internet-made-up stuff.

I watched the video. It looked very real to me and not made up. It was posted uncut.

If you choose not to seek it or believe it, that is simply your call.

I'm comfortable citing what I saw.

I'm also comfortable with any Zeeper denying anything that doesn't meet the narrative.

I learned long ago people need to make up their own minds and many don't want to change an opinion they treasure. Human nature I guess.

68 posted on 06/21/2023 6:14:34 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I saw the video also, it told you nothing, what about those 14 year olds?

You need to try and verify things before you absorb them and start referencing them and posting them as facts.


69 posted on 06/21/2023 6:20:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12
You need to try and verify things before you absorb them and start referencing them and posting them as facts.

I did watch the video.

I quoted it.

Since I do not know the mother or abducted son, nor neighbors, nor live in Ukraine, I've come to the end.

Now if you desire to verify it further, that is your call and I wish you good luck.

70 posted on 06/21/2023 7:20:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So you have nothing, you are posting claims about a nation’s draft laws and claiming 14-year-olds and random men are being dragged off the streets and sent to war but all you have is some video of a struggle on a street.

Somehow that told you what the Ukrainian draft laws are.


71 posted on 06/21/2023 7:24:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12
So you have nothing

I cited the video evidence of an abduction for conscription of a young teen.

Somehow that told you what the Ukrainian draft laws are.

Dictatorial governments never need laws. They act, as the video records, regardless of law.

72 posted on 06/21/2023 7:30:42 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You described a video you saw on the internet of somebody doing something somewhere.


73 posted on 06/21/2023 7:40:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12
Somehow that told you what the Ukrainian draft laws are.

No. I described what was occurring in the video I viewed.

That same video you chose not to go verify, while contenting yourself with accusing me of silly things.

I'm comfortable with you having another view, informed or not. It is your right.

But unless you come up with new information, I think we don't have any progress to make in a discussion.

74 posted on 06/21/2023 7:42:48 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I told you I’ve looked at the video a couple of times but it was just some people doing something, an arrest or what, who knows, I didn’t see the 14-year-olds you claim or signs that the man was randomly chosen out of the blue to be sent to war.


75 posted on 06/21/2023 7:48:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“””But unless you come up with new information, I think we don’t have any progress to make in a discussion.”””

You forget it is you making claims and you are being asked to prove them.


76 posted on 06/21/2023 7:54:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Already stated the source.

You have enough to seek it out and watch if inclined.

I’ve no desire to prove anything to you.

I stated what the video showed occurring.

You can watch it or not.
Believe it or not.

I’m content whatever you choose.


77 posted on 06/21/2023 8:12:26 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You need to take posting more serious and quit making wild claims.


78 posted on 06/21/2023 8:38:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ganeemead

The (nato) fops and wankers would still lose.

NATO is us (and maybe a Brit) brigade. The rest won’t join. Whatever, we could crush Russia on our own if we had to.


79 posted on 06/21/2023 10:39:52 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: tlozo

I think the people in that picture are communists during the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact period.


80 posted on 06/21/2023 10:44:14 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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