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The Pentagon Is Freaking Out About a Potential War With China
Politico ^ | 6/9/2023 | Hirsch

Posted on 06/12/2023 4:31:02 AM PDT by Phoenix8

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To: Lancerdancer

There is no nation on planet earth that is unconquerable, if others have the will and the means to accomplish it. And there will ALWAYS be someone — or a group of someones — with both the will and the means.


41 posted on 06/12/2023 5:50:30 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Sirius Lee

“Wars are won by logistics. And logistics favor the side with the most industrial capacity and means to deliver it.”

Very true.


42 posted on 06/12/2023 5:51:29 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Lancerdancer

“The majority of China’s ships are still coast guard level stuff. The media claiming that China has a powerful military is the same nonsense as the missile gap myth that Kennedy found out about when he became president and saw the actual numbers.”

First, given current technology, non-stealthy surface ships and aircraft are sitting ducks. Commercial vessels and aircraft even more so. If China declares an air and sea exclusion zone around Taiwan, what shipping company is going to send its vessels in and out of Taiwan in sufficient numbers for business to continue without a complete economic collapse of Taiwan? I see a blockade as a real threat regardless of how feasible it would be for the US Navy to break it. I don’t foresee a Normandy-style invasion because the Chinese likely view that as impractical and unnecessary. They will instead go for the blockade and economic collapse leading to political upheaval.


43 posted on 06/12/2023 5:57:35 AM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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To: buwaya

“What Taiwan is is a potential Chinese base across the Japan and South Korea shipping lanes to half the world. Its a place from which the East Asia trade can be throttled.”

China doesn’t need Taiwan as a base, as it could go around it; but having Taiwan as a Chinese base would sure as hell simplify things for China.


44 posted on 06/12/2023 5:58:33 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Another question no one is asking is, Why is Politico all of a sudden raising this issue? Who pulled their chain and why?

Independent journalism is long dead. This article is the product of some faction in DC. What’s going on in DC is the first question to ask.


45 posted on 06/12/2023 5:59:03 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: nicollo

Look when Chinese purchases if machine tools exploded.

Coincides almost perfectly with Obama’s reign.


46 posted on 06/12/2023 5:59:45 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

True that.


47 posted on 06/12/2023 6:08:35 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: MayflowerMadam

Spot on!


48 posted on 06/12/2023 6:19:37 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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To: MayflowerMadam

With what kind of force? Rainbows and unicorns? F’em if they think I’m sending my boys.


49 posted on 06/12/2023 6:21:22 AM PDT by stevio (Fight until you die.)
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To: Phoenix8

Trump built up the military, Brandon tore it down.


50 posted on 06/12/2023 6:22:23 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Lancerdancer

No offense, but it doesn’t seem so obvious why China couldn’t.
They are a mere 100 miles away from each other. China could swallow Tiawan, burp, and not even realize they ate them!
Seriously though, I do not get you’re rationale?
Please explain


51 posted on 06/12/2023 6:22:31 AM PDT by bantam
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To: bantam

How will China move millions of soldiers in ships back and forth without Taiwan sinking them?


52 posted on 06/12/2023 6:29:26 AM PDT by Lancerdancer (Don't care what you say, I am still voting Trump and still not supporting Zelensky)
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To: Phoenix8

Translated:

The ‘generals’ and appointees sold us out.

We have plenty of rope, but not the will to use it.


53 posted on 06/12/2023 6:35:23 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Phoenix8

“ All of a sudden, Washington is reckoning with the fact that so many parts and pieces of munitions, planes, and ships it needs are being manufactured overseas,”

A clue for the clueless


54 posted on 06/12/2023 6:36:20 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (AS )
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To: Lancerdancer

I don’t think they get sunk after about a week.


55 posted on 06/12/2023 6:36:59 AM PDT by bantam
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To: Phoenix8

“A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.” — Greek Proverb


A good proverb. Unfortunately, too many of our “Elite” old men line their pockets by chopping trees down.


56 posted on 06/12/2023 7:32:59 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Lancerdancer
Consider this: Taiwan has 23 million people, you would need 1 chinese soldier for every 3 taiwan citizens to occupy and pacify the island

How does that math change as they start steamrolling dissident civilians with tanks?

Consider this: 700,000 Americans are on blood pressure medication sourced 100% from China.

How many of them will be among your first KIA in the war with China?

57 posted on 06/12/2023 7:33:48 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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Lancerdancer
Since May 4, 2023

Retread troll.

58 posted on 06/12/2023 8:00:04 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Phoenix8

Sounds like an illegal defense leak. As we know that is punishable by the DOJ.


59 posted on 06/12/2023 8:59:18 AM PDT by pas
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To: Phoenix8

“All of a sudden, Washington is reckoning with the fact that so many parts and pieces of munitions, planes, and ships it needs are being manufactured overseas, including in China. Among the deficiencies: components of solid rocket motors, shell casings, machine tools, fuses and precursor elements to propellants and explosives, many of which are made in China and India.”

They “all of a sudden” realize this?! Took a break from calling those pointing out the obvious “racists,” and now they’re “freaking out”?!

Has the military been too busy cutting service”men”’s balls off to remember where their own are? Good grief, Charlie Brown.


60 posted on 06/12/2023 9:45:14 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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