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How California, land of Nixon and Reagan, turned blue and changed American politics
news.yahoo ^ | 06/04/2023 | Mark Z. Barabak

Posted on 06/05/2023 8:27:24 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ansel12

1. There are a lot of definitions for “went national.” What’s yours? You’ve deliberately ignored and refused to acknowledge or address how I qualified mine, apparently just to troll and be provocative and troublesome. It doesn’t seem like you’re conversing in good faith.

2. Does “went national” mean no stores in the Northeast and on the West Coast of the nation?

3. You’ve ignored all the information I’ve given you and even just reminded you of, assuming you lived through that time.


41 posted on 06/05/2023 1:20:56 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: Faith Presses On

To me “went national” means they went national, being America’s #1 retailer and having stores in more than 45 states.


42 posted on 06/05/2023 1:34:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

You only replied to my first sentence and continue to ignore my points, though I’ve acknowledged yours, and in fact, was fully aware of them. I know Walmart’s history in general.


43 posted on 06/05/2023 1:48:51 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: Alberta's Child

I agree. Regardless of the amount of wealth or education they vote to the left. It appears to be cultural.


44 posted on 06/05/2023 1:50:34 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: ansel12

The nation has 50 states.


45 posted on 06/05/2023 1:50:48 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: Faith Presses On

Get a life, I’m not that interested in your weird theories about Walmart and Clinton.


46 posted on 06/05/2023 1:59:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: alstewartfan; al baby

“Cut his own throat”

That’s a fact.

When people here tried to get Dornan involved with immigration control he’d have nothing to do with it, parroting the usual GOP establishment blather, making excuses for doing nothing.

Then Loretta Sanchez Brixey figured out that dropping her married name and running as an identity politics latina could cook his goose and it worked.

There was evidence that voter fraud was involved as well, ballots that used a latino front organization as an address. Dornan wanted to challenge the election but the No Borders Bush wing in Congress let him twist in the wind.


47 posted on 06/05/2023 2:02:53 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Fiji Hill; princeofdarkness

“Many Republican leaders in California were what we now call RINOs.”

You left off one of the worst of the breed, Thomas Kuchel, who was a US Senator from California in the 1960s.

In the 1962 election for California governor Kuchel refused to endorse GOP candidate Richard Nixon.

In the 1964 Presidential election Kuchel not only refused to support GOP candidate Barry Goldwater, Kuchel openly endorsed Lyndon Johnson.

When Ronald Reagan ran for Governor in 1966, Kuchel had this to say about Reagan’s conservative supporters:

“A fanatical neo-fascist political cult of right-wingers in the GOP, driven by a strange mixture of corrosive hatred and sickening fear that is recklessly determined to control our party or destroy it!”


48 posted on 06/05/2023 2:14:22 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: ansel12

“Weird theories.” You keep ignoring all Walmart did in the 1990s. And I didn’t really have much thought about the Clintons and Walmart, but since we got into this discussion:

“The Clintons also benefited financially from Wal-Mart. Hillary Clinton was paid $18,000 each year she served on the board, plus $1,500 for each meeting she attended. By 1993 she had accumulated at least $100,000 in Wal-Mart stock, according to Bill Clinton’s federal financial disclosure that year. The Clintons also flew for free on Wal-Mart corporate planes 14 times in 1990 and 1991 in preparation for Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential bid.”

https://www.law.com/almID/900005548145/

I think it would entirely be expected for a presidential candidate and national-level politicians coming out of Arkansas to have plenty of dealings with Walmart, especially during that period.


49 posted on 06/05/2023 2:45:41 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: princeofdarkness

Arnold Schwarzenegger helped the democrats solidify the democrats being able to steal the republican vote away.


50 posted on 06/05/2023 7:17:52 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Pelham

I went to visit my aunt and uncle in Redlands CA in 1970. What an awesome place. He was an Air Force officer based at Norton AFB. The whole place was like home town America.

I recently saw a documentary about San Bernardino. It is a Mexican flea market on crack.


51 posted on 06/05/2023 7:26:51 PM PDT by Texas resident (We are living through Barak's fundamental transformation)
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To: Pelham
You left off one of the worst of the breed, Thomas Kuchel, who was a US Senator from California in the 1960s.

I originally included Kuchel in the draft version of my post, but I decided to limit it to governors. Indeed, Kuchel was a pill. The Republicans finally ousted him in the 1968 primary, but although Max Rafferty, who beat Kuchel, was an excellent candidate, he narrowly lost to Democrat Alan Cranston.

52 posted on 06/05/2023 9:30:04 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

“he narrowly lost to Democrat Alan Cranston.”

Alias “the Skull”

IIRC Cranston had a son whose exploits rival Hunter Biden’s.


53 posted on 06/05/2023 11:27:22 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Texas resident

A shame. And it’s happened to large sections of California, often with the assistance of the far from wonderful national GOP.


54 posted on 06/05/2023 11:30:47 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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