Posted on 06/04/2023 3:56:22 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
You’ve posted so much nonsense propaganda supporting the child molesters and money laundering operation out of Ukraine this story is just silly. You’ve already claimed many times that Russia was defeated and Ukraine had won.
Right, so our complaint was the Afghanis wouldn't fight, and now that the Ukrainians are willing to fight, you don't want to give them weapons. Okay
The order of the day must be , “Reagan”, lol. Try Washington’s fair well speech, Eurotramp.
Screw these Putin JackBoot lickers. There is bipartisan support for funding Ukraine with weapons.
These trolls are nothing but weak kneed Appeasers, with a false promise of Peace in our Time.
Every month that goes by that Russia can’t win, is a humiliation to Putin and his failed Empire.
Japan isn’t threatening to land in Lingayen gulf at the moment. Its not got an insane militaristic clique running the place.
Russia has been attacking all along the front from Kreminna to Vuhledar all winter and spring. And getting nowhere, save at Bakhmut. In the meantime it’s been losing materiel and munitions. Based on recent events, it hasn’t got a capability for mobile warfare anymore - the ability to break through and exploit deep into the enemy rear.
In the meantime Ukraine has been building a mobile reserve and receiving a great deal of aid of all kinds. Unlike Russia, Ukraine hasn’t far to go to win. The key is Melitopol. When they take that everything west of the Kerch bridge will be isolated and out of supply. It will be the Kherson bridgehead all over again. And the Kerch bridge is just waiting on the inevitable missile.
To prevent that Russia will need to be able to counterattack effectively, and they can’t - see above re maneuver warfare.
You know what? Even Gen Milley has toned down his rhetoric and admitted thing aren't going as well as they might.
But I will bet my fortune country and future on your penetrating understanding of military and geopolitical affairs.
See, Eurotramp, it doesn’t matter who is fighting where. As long as the money flows, anything goes.
Hell, the NATO/CIA fags don’t care if they win.
Yes, number of guns and shells doesn't matter if you can't bring them to bear on an enemy that is outmaneuvering you. But the Ukies aren't maneuvering. The reason they got slaughtered in Bakhmut is because they dug in in Bakhmut making them the target of the vast overmatch in artillery.
This was the NATO strategy for Ukraine. We misunderestimated Russia's ability to blow up half a continent conventionally. We misunderestimated wrong and Russia reduced Bakhmut to rubble as everyone admits.
Whatever side you stand on in this issue, the fact of the matter is we are broke and cannot continue to fund this nonsense.
If our leaders send our kids over there they will find their enemy is not Russia.
It’s bad enough they’re printing enough money to bankrupt us and sending it over there just to cover up their criminal activities.
Please don’t hesitate to cough up more information everybody should know.
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It was first “coughed up” by the Ukrainians themselves.
You are still arguing rhetorically. Be substantial, and analytical. That is the honest way to argue.
The Russians aren’t defeated YET.
All I’m saying is that the odds are good that the Ukrainians can soon put them in a hopeless position. The map favors that.
The Ukrainian air defense system was never “superior”, it was just good enough to keep the Russian Air Force mostly neutralized. The Ukrainian air defense has been running low on ammo, so western aid is necessary to keep the status quo.
The Russians obviously haven’t got enough cruise missiles to have a decisive strategic effect on Ukraine. They had to give up on the attacks on the electric system and railroads. If they had the missiles, or if the missiles were getting through more often, they would have kept it up.
F16s are necessary to backfill the Ukrainian AF. They are low on planes and there aren’t enough ex-Soviet aircraft around in Europe for that.
Wars use up materiel. It has to come from somewhere.
Right, it was a problem for us that the Afghan's were unwilling to fight, but now that the Ukrainians have clearly shown they are willing to fight, you are against arming them. Makes sense
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64 posted on 6/3/2023, 7:48:57 PM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
Depopulating [killing people] is one of the goals of the Neo Cons, Globalists, Biden Worshipers, Soros Worshipers. One of their goals is to bet the World population down to so many people. This [Ukraine war] and Covid 19 is/was a start.
Yup, 100 billion sent to Ukraine out of the total US budget of 6.6 Trillion bankrupted us. Okay
Mr. Timber, in case you missed it, the test is over, and we failed!
The US/NATO has had 8 years to train and equip the Ukes.
That's worked out really well with the Ruskies now controlling 20% of former Uke territory and advancing every day.
I'm hoping you've found yourself another gig and will disappear from here real soon!
The Ukies arent maneuvering, but they are interdicting. They are more and more able to do that. WWI style gun lines and vast ammo dumps are vulnerable to things like HIMARS.
The Russians can’t keep up their bombardments if they can’t concentrate their assets closer than 15km from the front, and right now it seems that their ammo dumps are stuck 40-50km away. They can’t feed their guns very fast. When the Ukes get the GLSDB it’s going to get much worse.
Russia is running low on artillery and ammo besides.
The Ukes began getting weapons from the US only in 2018, and those were just some Javelins. Ordered by Trump btw.
And after that zero, until March 2022.
“The US/NATO has had 8 years to train and equip the Ukes.”
So this is false.
Yup, 100 billion sent to Ukraine out of the total US budget of 6.6 Trillion bankrupted us. Okay
Yup It’s just one example of the money wasted. Now if we could only look at the other 6.6 trillion.
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