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Leading Putin crony Prigozhin urges leader to stop Ukraine war now and tell the world Russia has won 'by destroying a large part of the Ukrainian male population and grabbing territory'
Daily Mail ^ | 4/15/23 | Will Stewart

Posted on 04/15/2023 6:03:04 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: marcusmaximus

Maybe, for the same readons, Lincoln should have declared victory against the Confederacy and withdrawn just when the South started to lose the war.


21 posted on 04/15/2023 7:58:28 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: ansel12
You think our military people come from the world of hard-core drug users and addicts?

Think a bit. Won't you???

If the young are dead and buried before they can get to military age, or die before that age...

Then, the Chinese's job is done.

If they're allowed to get to military age, then, the pool of potential recruits is bigger than China would tolerate.

A young person is more easily duped into buying drugs than the older generations, so, they have to be stopped before they can become 'recruitable'.

China's job is to make sure that the young become drug addicts before they can be recruited. For China, creating drug addicts is their best weapon. But, it's not just as a military weapon, since, most addicts (if they don't die from drug-overdoses) won't make it into a worthwhile job that makes the American economy grow. A weak American military and a weak American economy, are the goals for China.
22 posted on 04/15/2023 8:01:55 AM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

Yes, drugs corrode a society but drug addict types are not the pool of military enlistees.


23 posted on 04/15/2023 8:06:02 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: marcusmaximus
Significant Russian Advances In NW Bakhmut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEKk3wC7mz0

24 posted on 04/15/2023 8:28:11 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: fireman15

Yup... Vlad is a very popular dude... Everybody loves him and all of his friends are slowly being eliminated... That kind of speaks for itself. I guess that’s why he sends one of his doubles to public events... Just in case somebody gets overly excited and hugs him to death.


25 posted on 04/15/2023 8:46:26 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: JonPreston

Those leaked military papers admit that the Russian army is killing Ukes at a ratio of 7:1.


26 posted on 04/15/2023 8:47:58 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Kazan

The Russians have about 75% of Bakhmut, possibly a little more.


27 posted on 04/15/2023 8:49:10 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: jerod
Then instead of being scorned, sanctioned and ostracized ....

Pray tell.

Where I come from it is, "the pot calling the kettle black!"

28 posted on 04/15/2023 8:55:25 AM PDT by icclearly
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To: marcusmaximus

Actually Prigozhin said absolutely opposite. Western press showed a new high of distortion of truth.

Her is a goggle translation of his article: https://telegra-ph.translate.goog/Tolko-chestnyj-boj-nikakogo-dogovornyaka-04-14?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US


29 posted on 04/15/2023 9:46:45 AM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: jerod

Quit trying to change countries regimes. Mind your own business.


30 posted on 04/15/2023 10:19:22 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: ansel12
Yes, drugs corrode a society but drug addict types are not the pool of military enlistees.

You're still not understanding my post, or maybe I'm failing to communicate it accurately.

The point is that China wants to deplete the pool of available recruits, and they do so by making sure that the young Americans either become addicts or die from the drugs. Once they're addicted or dead, they won't be available for recruiting.

Nobody is a drug addict until they're introduced to the drugs, and China wants to make it easy for those drugs to be available.

So, yes, nobody in the drug addicted ranks would quality for military service, but China is thinking way ahead, by making sure that those young people won't be available for service.

If you still can't understand that, I'll have to make drawings for you.
31 posted on 04/15/2023 11:38:12 AM PDT by adorno
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“”The point is that China wants to deplete the pool of available recruits, and they do so by making sure that the young Americans either become addicts or die from the drugs. Once they’re addicted or dead, they won’t be available for recruiting.””

I get your point but I’m saying that the kind of people who choose to accept Fetynal in the first place have flaws that were already there and are not likely to have made military material.

China is catching the bottom feeders, the weak, the addictive personalities, those are people that need help but they weren’t diverted from a future in the military.


32 posted on 04/15/2023 11:53:24 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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I get your point but I’m saying that the kind of people who choose to accept Fetynal in the first place have flaws that were already there and are not likely to have made military material.

YOu do know that there are people already in the military who do drugs? Many do not get caught, and if they are caught, they get thrown out. So, it's not about having the smarts to not do drugs, or making the right choice.

People do drugs and still go on to a military career, but many cannot cope after doing drugs and won't qualify anyway, or they die before even thinking about a military career. China counts on people getting hooked and dying, or getting hooked and not qualifying. China's point is to kill Americans before they are capable of fighting the Chinese military.
33 posted on 04/15/2023 2:22:02 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

I thought we were talking about Fetynal.

Now you want to talk about all drugs.


34 posted on 04/15/2023 2:29:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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I thought we were talking about Fetynal.

Now you want to talk about all drugs.


The primary subject was/is China and how they're attacking the American youth. Fentanyl is the drug that is killing most American youth, but a lot of other drugs are deadly too.
35 posted on 04/15/2023 3:24:45 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

In the ‘old days’ we would say GFYS... Let’s see if you can figure that out, you Putin loving fool.


36 posted on 04/15/2023 9:06:07 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: icclearly

Seriously? You truly can’t figure out that Putin is essentially the worst person on the face of the earth? And that’s only because Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot are dead?


37 posted on 04/15/2023 9:12:55 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: jerod

My non-support of Ukraine doesn’t simultaneously equal support for Russia.


38 posted on 04/15/2023 9:19:50 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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You truly can’t figure out that Putin is essentially the worst person on the face of the earth?

Hey, Mr. Niave. I can see you have swallowed the entire pitcher of the propaganda cool-aid!

You probably believe in the tooth fairy and the easter bunny, too.

Don't you see the mind-control/propaganda our media/government launches against the foolish masses like you? First, they demean the leader of a country, and then they send in the color revolution crew for regime change (invasion of a sovereign country).

Want a few recent examples....

-Saddam
-Gaddafi
-Assasad
-Iyatollah
-Milošević
-Viktor Yanukovych
-Putin

I'm not suggesting these were choir boys, but they are the head of sovereign countries that just happen to disagree with our threats and bullying. And when they disagree too much, we invade or just blow up their pipelines.

We've been doing this for decades.

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

Look at the obvious. The media eviscerates the leader, and then the deep state moves in for the regime change kill. Most of the time, it works in the short run -- but clearly not in the long run. Plus, it is an invasion of a sovereign country which I'm sure you're all for.

Open your eyes, Mr. Naive. The result of years and years of these invasions/intrusions is that we are being left behind as country after country finally sees our scheme and abandons our so-called western block and dollar-based system. Brazil, South Africa, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, India, etc.(BRICS) It was good while it lasted but, now paybacks are going to be hell!

You can only bully for so long without blowback. And that's exactly what is happening to us today. No more petrodollars for the countries that represent well over 50% of the world population. This will not end well for us!

Sure. Keep up your jingoism and bullying, and get your news and information from CNN, WAPO, NYT, etc., or better yet, directly from Brandon. Continue to watch us as we fade into the sunset.

By the way, why don't you explain where you get your information and specifically what Putin has done that earns your foolish award?

39 posted on 04/16/2023 7:36:43 AM PDT by icclearly
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