Posted on 03/28/2023 9:43:25 AM PDT by Hostage
“Would rather see $100 billion spent on securing OUR nation’s borders.”
I agree. Regarding school security, each city/district/state should take care of itself.
Arguably, all of these mass shooters are mentally ill with some having been identified so, but many not. So how do we identify potential shooters? We can’t. Our current approach, in most instances, is to be reactive. Democrats want to ban guns. But that is unconstitutional and impractical. So proactively, what are our choices? I submit that the logical choice is in-person, face to face armed guards combined with physical barriers and technology assisted observation. Multi-layered approaches like this are standard stratagem throughout the world. This approach is and will be opposed by teachers unions, etc. Therefore we as taxpayers need to demand laws that end “gun free’ kill zones and turn them into “enhanced safety” zones. There are companies that provide this service already and are employed by responsible school districts. Or volunteer forces, with appropriate training, can be organized with government inducements. Do as I have done and write your Congressman.
Because they want us dead
Ask this question of “Williams’’, the Freeper who seems to think Ukraine is deserving of every bit of US tax dollars because the Ukrainians are fighting for ‘’democracy’’.
Never mind our dangerously unprotected schools, our now non existent southern border and our rapidly dwindling stocks of ammunition for our military and the $138 billion that’s been shoveled to that grifting little Ukrainian weasel.
Yup.Ukraine is what it’s all about.
No. The schools themselves should be doing this.
clear body am from police takedown of school shooter. This should be used for police training in places like Uvalde.
Nashville PD has released another clip from bodycam footage, this time of officers neutralizing female-to-male transgender shooter Audrey Hale, who killed three children and three adults at a Christian school. (Shots fired at 2:00)
We have MORE *trained* veterans on the streets than currently exist in our armed forces. Thousands of these veterans would volunteer and or could be paid a token 1k per month just to cover their expenses, time etc.
This would work for every town and city in the U.S. and would only require a background check to get these folks up to speed. Of course, this is too much common sense and just too simple for those in government to figure out.
There are 116,000 k-12 schools in the US including private schools.
Provide the following:
So
$ 46,400,000
$556,800,000
$139,200,000
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$742,400,000
Add some administrative cost, which you could probably do through an existing agency like Homeland Security or the education department.
Easily do this for less than $1 billion.
You could prescreen candidates with an online psych eval and only send the best candidates for the formal psych eval. so you could reduce that from 6 to 3 evals per school.
You could also do a lot of the gun training via an online class. Possibly cutting the cost of the training.
And you probably wouldn't have to provide a gun to everyone either.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
“If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” — Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
Pelosi: "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it." (non-FR; 6 sec.)
“Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves [emphasis added]. It seems to be the law of our general nature.” - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787)
Democrats Are Terrified Of An Educated And Informed Public (3.12.23)
Patriots, the bottom line is this imo. What is your threshold of “pain” for peacefully stopping unconstitutionally big state and federal governments controlled by bully, constitutionally undefined political parties, from oppressing the people under their boots?
The inevitable remedy for ongoing, post-17A ratification, corrupt political party treason (imo)...
All MAGA patriots need to wake up their RINO federal and state lawmakers by making the following clear to them.
If they don’t publicly support either a resolution, or a Constitutional Convention, to effectively "secede" ALL the states from the unconstitutionally big federal government by amending the Constitution to repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A), doing so before the primary elections in 2024, that YOU will primary them.
If the proposed amendment was limited strictly to repealing 16&17A, relatively little or ideally no discussion would be needed before ratification of the amendment imo.
With 16&17A out of the way, my hope is that Trump 47 becomes the FIRST president of a truly constitutionally limited power federal government.
In the meanwhile, I'm not holding my breath for significant MAGA legislation to appear in the first 100 days of new term for what may still prove to be another RINO-controlled House.
In other words, primarying RINOs in 2022 was just for practice. Trump will hopefully do another round of primarying for 2024 elections.
Not to be a downer, but $100 billion can go a long way for a lot of good causes that are in the national interest. I’m not convinced the federal taxpayers should pay for metal detectors in local schools. I’m not saying it’s a terrible idea, just not sure it is a federal responsibility and possibly worse, federal spending is so corrupt if they did allocate $100 billion some politicians’ cousins and in-laws would get the contracts and syphon 60% of it.
> “The Federal government has no business in “Education”
> “ ..... making the nations schools look more like prisons/jails ...”
Airport Security doesn’t look like prison or jail.
Security can be designed, backfitted into schools, and still have them look bright and friendly.
The states can receive block grant funds with uniform standards to achieve school security.
It’s a no-brainer.
Many on this thread have responded very well to the question why hasn’t this been done already.
A response uptrend #48 does a good job at estimating the cost at around a billion.
That’s just a part of the point. The title compares Ukraine spending which is more than a hundred billion to the ZERO spending granted to States towards school security. The question is why? Why are federal school security grants at ZERO, while Ukraine nonsense is more than $100 Billion?
Freepers have explained very well in this thread the answers to this question.
Well I object to the implied premise that we could only do one or the other.
There is no reason we can’t support Ukraine and provide school security.
There is plenty of waste in the 6.3 Trillion dollar budget that can be cut.
Why? Because they want your kids dead. That is used to panic idiots into gun confiscation — which is necessary to start the US gulags.
ZERO? Okay
The sudden intersection of these safety concerns in the past year has recently led President Joe Biden to sign rare bipartisan legislation to create new school safety policy and funding. That legislation included $1 billion in funding for schools to “create safe and healthy learning environments for all students,” with an additional $300 million to be made available for “training and equipment that can help during a threat of violence.”
That is significant financial support in this school safety bill, but it is by no means the only support available from the US federal government for school districts and community organizations looking to acquire school safety resources. For example, the Department of Education, the Department of Justice, and the Department of Homeland Security all have grant programs for schools to improve their wider safety and security initiatives.
The US Congressional Research Service recently published a report on Federal Support for School Safety and Security with a comprehensive list of such programs. They support many school safety initiatives, including anti-violence measures, training, and support for schools to acquire broader safety and operational technology.
Highlighted Programs from the Federal Support for School Safety and Security Report:
Student Support and Academic Enrichment (SSAE) Grants
Matching Grant Program for School Security
School Safety National Activities (formerly, Safe and Drug-Free Schools and Communities-National Programs)
Project School Emergency Response to Violence (Project SERV)
Student Safety and Campus Emergency Management Grants
Education for the Disadvantaged: Grants to LEAs (Title I-A)
Emergency Management Performance Grant Program (EMPG)
The Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant (JAG) Program
https://www.realtimenetworks.com/blog/guide-to-us-federal-funding-for-school-safety-and-security
It’s as easy as adding an ‘armed’ stipend to teachers’ paycheck who carry at school.
Good find but that sets conditions of “matching grants” requiring cash strapped states and communities to come up with funds they don’t have unless they raise taxes.
So that legislation doesn’t work unless amended to release funds without first matching.
Also, there are no minimum uniform standards for states to implement.
In other words, this is poorly drafted legislation.
There should long ago been test programs funded to establish standards. This is what happens when lawyers and legislators throw nice-sounding words against the wall without first having engineering input to develop standards.
It’s more like a bunch of morons without any brains. Jeez, what’s with all these government loving scared pussies. Government can’t do a damn thing right.
Education and school security is none of the eff’n federal government’s business. Block grants come with strings, get washed thru the DC bureaucracy and then back thru a state bureaucracy.
Abolish the federal Dept of Education, cut every single dollar spent by the federal government related to education, school lunches and anything to with children. Get the federal government completely out of families’ lives, local law enforcement, airport security and shutter DHS after sending things like the Coast Guard and Border Patrol back to where the once came.
Local and state tax dollars used for education should of go directly to parents to use as they see fit. Eventually, zero tax dollars at any level should go to education. When people pay their own way they tend to take responsibility.
Good points but good security costs money.
Block grants to states with minimum standards is the only way to fund unless states raise taxes which can be inconsistent.
Minimum standards are as simple as a list of federal or state approved vendors and list of minimum equipment and management.
Private companies have turn key solutions for homes and businesses. They can get a system installed and operating. Here’s one example:
https://buffalosecurityfire.com
There are many more.
All that needs to be done is form a list of security equipment coverage, employee training, physical security infrastructure, surveillance, offsite monitoring. Have state offices choose a shopping list, submit to federal offices for review, approval, and first round funding.
This is not difficult.
There’s a reason it hasn’t been done. Probably has to do with liability or intransigence or both.
Drop the “federal approved” and you are there. No one in DC has a fricking clue about what is needed in the middle of flyover country.
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