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Putin cancels decree underpinning Moldova's sovereignty in separatist conflict
Reuters ^ | February 21, 2023 | Alexander Tanas

Posted on 02/23/2023 8:11:05 AM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: TTFX
Do you have an argument for your conclusion? Why do you think Russia will attack England? When?

All right...

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And THIS is thoroughly evil...


21 posted on 02/23/2023 10:06:53 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: House Atreides
Would you support a UKRAINIAN INVASION of Transnistria and its INDEPENDENCE-MINDED INHABITANTS?

False assumption there, bub.

22 posted on 02/23/2023 10:08:02 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: kiryandil

Who do they think they are, Joe Biden!


23 posted on 02/23/2023 10:48:07 AM PST by norsky ( <P> <a href= > </a> <P><img src=" "width=500"></img>)
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To: Timber Rattler

In fact, US aid to Ukraine is dominated by weaponry, Euro countries’ aid (add up EU aid plus individual Euro countries aid) is dominated by financial and humanitarian aid (and the latter does not count most of the enormous cost of aid to Ukrainian refugees in Euro countries, including the private component.)

At one point recently, EU & EU countries’ total aid committed to Ukraine slightly exceeded committed US aid, but, that “lead” may well go back and forth. The US recent pledges of (mostly) military aid have now shot it well back into the lead. It’s also important not to confuse aid actually sent with aid actually appropriated but strung out into the indefinite future OR aid planned or pledged but not yet appropriated.

Looked at another way, in the case of the US, there are actually 4 time-dependent categories of aid: Aid actually sent to Ukraine, aid released to Ukraine (includes aid sent and aid committed by Biden but might take a year or more to be sent), aid appropriated (but may be spread out over several years by the various Presidential releases), and aid planned (a near continuously variable number, as policy changes make a big difference.) Sources also double count, gov’ts over-value old equipment, etc., so, it can get murky. Best might be to stick with the quantity “aid known to have been sent plus aid released for delivery expected to be within 1 year”, or something like that.

“When” is as important as “how much”. Rate matters.

The comparison Hannity stated without ANY qualification yesterday, (paraphrasal) “$120 billion US aid vs. $30 billion Euro countries’ aid” is nonsense. That kind of crap just discredits him. But... Ditto for the numbers the Ukrainians put out a few days ago.

This source, though flawed (aid pledged, but no time component, for one thing), is the best I’ve found:

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/


24 posted on 02/23/2023 11:14:40 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Moldova is a tiny, dirt-poor, almost defenceless state. The EU and NATO wouldn’t be interested in it.

Putin, though...

What’s Moldova got that the 11 under-developed timezones of Russia don’t?

Indoor toilets?


25 posted on 02/23/2023 11:47:16 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: TTFX

On Putin’s orders, Russia sent chemical weapons and lethal polonium into the streets of the UK years ago. We even had civilian casualties. Salisbury - a whole town - got cordoned off for a bit while they cleaned up after the Russkies.

We were a bit annoyed, but after a cup of tea reasoned it as, “Putin’s gotta Putin. LOL.” and forgot all about it.

This is the humorous aspect of American arguments. One minute it’s “if Russia or China parked its tanks in Cuba, we’d go all out for war”, the next

- a country gets its presidential candidate poisoned on Putin’s orders

- its neighbor gets invaded on Putin’s orders

- a US NATO ally has Russians deploying polonium and novichok on its streets, ooh, again on Putin’s orders

- half of eastern Europe has its gas taps turned off because Putin decided to blackmail them

- a president of a European country is blackmailed into committing high treason in December 2013... ooh, and there’s Putin again

- Putin wrote an essay practically admitting that he’s got the same mindset as Hitler when Hitler wrote Mein Kampf

And us Europeans are just supposed to just sit back, grin and bear it, no matter what Putin does, because America doesn’t want the inconvenience.

NO MATTER WHAT PUTIN DOES, NATO in Europe mustn’t poke the warmongering retard in Moscow. We’re just supposed to let him go full space cadet and hope one day he does something even more specacularly evil like go on holiday to Alaska with a few thousand mobiks as his entourage or lob a nuke into America or something. Although, if he did nuke America, as long as it’s San Francisco, you’ll probably give him a pass for that, to save yourself from having to get out of your armchair.

That’s cognitive dissonance for ya.


26 posted on 02/23/2023 11:59:23 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: MalPearce

- half of eastern Europe has its gas taps turned off because Putin decided to blackmail them

- - - - - - -

A country sanctioned another, with the goal of reducing trade. Later, it complained that trade reduced.


27 posted on 02/23/2023 12:08:11 PM PST by TTFX
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To: Timber Rattler

There is a Russian community in the next town over from me. I wonder when Putti-toot will send troops to protect them?


28 posted on 02/23/2023 12:12:19 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: MalPearce

Artillery range of Odessa. And borders with NATO.

That’s what Russia wants with Moldova.


29 posted on 02/23/2023 12:16:09 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Yes, it is rather amusing that Russia can’t make its mind up about needing a neutral, non-threatening next door neighbor keeping a distance between its borders and NATO missiles over 1000 miles away... and in conclusion decides the only way to do this is to do is park its tanks right up to the border with NATO, and stick its nukes as close to the NATO border as it can.

It’s almost as if they didn’t really feel very threatened by NATO at all, and the whole thing is a lame justification for parking its tanks as close to NATO turf as it can get away with.


30 posted on 02/23/2023 2:19:07 PM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: Wuli

Transnistria stated in1990, that they would not join Moldova if they left the USSR. Moldova left the USSR in August of 1991 and after a brief conflict, a cease fire was signed in March of 1992 between the two. Transnistria has not been a part of Maldonado since that date.

Putin had no part in this separation.


31 posted on 02/23/2023 2:31:31 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: yuleeyahoo

Maldonado = Moldova. I hate autocorrect.


32 posted on 02/23/2023 2:35:19 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: yuleeyahoo

“Transnistria has not been a part of Maldonado since that date.”

Putin has used Transnistria to undermine Modldova for years, hoping to make Transnistria a wedge into a Russian takeover of Moldova.


33 posted on 02/23/2023 3:11:39 PM PST by Wuli
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