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Why was the East Palestine tank car blown up?
American Thinker ^ | February 20,2023 | By R. Thomas Meloy

Posted on 02/20/2023 3:53:13 PM PST by Hojczyk

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1 posted on 02/20/2023 3:53:13 PM PST by Hojczyk
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Following the Science/Engineering is SO problematic for the preferred narative.

Just stop it or become a Meritless Garland/Fey Wray target.


2 posted on 02/20/2023 3:57:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Hojczyk

Very simply. To kill white people.


3 posted on 02/20/2023 4:00:07 PM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Hojczyk

Indeed.

And why was the military involved?

Oh, but it’s just so ‘overblown’. /s


4 posted on 02/20/2023 4:01:21 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Hojczyk

Generally to mitigate the risk of a BLEVE.

Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_liquid_expanding_vapor_explosion


5 posted on 02/20/2023 4:02:43 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Hojczyk

Loose buttplug?


6 posted on 02/20/2023 4:04:01 PM PST by dblshot
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Was there a fire around the rail cars?

Yes - a hot axle resulted in a fire (red hot) that preceded the derail moment by some miles.

Otherwise, derailing can include battery by a variety of physical objects, with attending structural failures that are both expected and unexpected.


7 posted on 02/20/2023 4:04:12 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Hojczyk

Thanks for a thought provoking article
great questions!

question authority and
think critically


8 posted on 02/20/2023 4:07:17 PM PST by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives )
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Yes a BLEVE is a bad thing.

But why is intentionally breaching the tank and dumping the contents and then lighting it on fire better?

I also have to wonder; If the cars are still on their wheels and on the tracks, why couldn’t the cars have been hooked up to an engine and be pulled to a location better suited to cooling them down?


9 posted on 02/20/2023 4:09:54 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Hojczyk

BLEVE


10 posted on 02/20/2023 4:10:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Why wasnt the alert system working?

They have sensors that alert on the rails.


11 posted on 02/20/2023 4:11:58 PM PST by crz
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Epic fail.

12 posted on 02/20/2023 4:13:29 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: aumrl

Like everything today we are to believe the sh## they spew and not ask questions. They have proved themselves a thousand times over, they are not our friends and they have the ultimate distain for us because they know WE ARE THIER BOSSES we just haven’t flexed enough to prove it to them. God have mercy on them all if we ever do


13 posted on 02/20/2023 4:14:01 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Hojczyk

I could not believe how quickly they decided to blow it up. Didn’t those retards remember the beached whale?

But seriously, why didn’t they consult the Navy or Air Force about how to put out a fire like that? They are experts at putting out fires... I think.


14 posted on 02/20/2023 4:14:27 PM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: crz

The train apparently went over two detectors before the hot axle apparently seperated and perped the derailment.

NS has some ‘splainin’ to do.


15 posted on 02/20/2023 4:15:28 PM PST by Paladin2
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To answer this question, consider viewing what caused it in film.

After Ohio train derailment, residents are living the plot of a movie they helped make

16 posted on 02/20/2023 4:20:15 PM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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Vinyl chloride boils at ~8 degrees F. When burned, one of the byproducts is Hydrochloric acid, which isn’t great when concentrates, but that’s preferable to vinyl chloride vapor.

That doesn’t really address the bigger question of “did they attempt to offload the chemicals?”. There was a trench that the chemicals were poured into prior to burning. If they had time to fetch heavy equipment and dig a trench, they had time to fetch a trailer that could at least handle some of the chemical. You may have to sacrifice a milk truck or two , but given the current reality, it’s worth asking if it was even considered.


17 posted on 02/20/2023 4:21:25 PM PST by jz638
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Because, frankly, Idiots Abide.


18 posted on 02/20/2023 4:27:33 PM PST by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable STILL )
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I don’t know if it was the right or wrong decision. I think there were no “good” decisions because a BLEVE does appear possible from early video.

Video here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsw4ZKkLQp8

In this video you can see cars that do not appear to be on fire, but we know they were full. There are cars that are possibly full of ethyl-methyl death that are on fire or in fires. Bad day for a firefighter!

Video of a LPG BLEVE on a train from 1983 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRP5FeYenuI The rail car that exploded traveled approximately 3600’ in this incident. At the 3 minute mark in the video there is a second BLEVE.

I am reading a lot of comment here and elsewhere that either ignore this as a possibility or minimize the risks of this happening in this crash.

A BLEVE is unbelievably powerful and it is never going to “improve” a situation. Does that mean the burn-off and venting operation was the right thing? I don’t know, but I am not going to dismiss the possibility because it does not fit the “politics”.

This did not happen because of Trump, Biden, Obama, or Bush. The big railroads own our legislatures. The trains keep getting bigger and the bigger they are the more likely you have a catastrophic failure. They rolled the dice like Boeing did with their 737 issue to make a little bit more money and it bit them (the downside of capitalism perhaps) and the poor community where it happened.

I hope this mess causes some changes that will prevent another similar incident in the future.


19 posted on 02/20/2023 4:28:11 PM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: drSteve78

Just my opinion, but they probably figure cheaper to emit all the hazardous material into the armosphere. Letting it seep into the ground requires much more money to abate and remove chemicals. Airborn release will dissipate over much broader area.


20 posted on 02/20/2023 4:35:22 PM PST by parmamenian (and so it goes!)
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