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Avoiding a Long War - U.S. Policy and the Trajectory of the Russia-Ukraine Conflict (Russia is winning, US needs off ramp)
RAND CORP (that's right) ^

Posted on 01/29/2023 8:50:51 AM PST by BusterDog

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To: JoSixChip

Then you’re my enemy I guess?

You see you Ukraine kooks can’t just discuss Ukraine.

You’ve got a list a mile long of pure BS that includes:

WEF,Neocons, Biden, Globohomos, Klaus Schwab, Soros, Corruption, racism, woke military, southern border, ageism, government is our enemy....

On and on and on.

Now I’m your enemy.

Grow up.

Russia invaded Ukraine. It’s not good for America, Europe, the West. That’s reality. But all this other insane gobbledygook.


61 posted on 01/29/2023 11:55:59 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: delta7

Wow a one year war but missile attacks yesterday ended it. Who knew?

One thing I’m certain of. Your knowledge of the actual war situation is exactly Dick.


63 posted on 01/29/2023 12:01:07 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Chunga85

In all sincerity I think anti American kooks like you should be thrown out, but not my call.

How much did you drink today kooky bird?


64 posted on 01/29/2023 12:02:39 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

“No one is laughing us off the forum you stupid idiot.”

That’s kind of a problem for FR because you should be laughed out of here. You are offensive and a repetitive disgrace.


65 posted on 01/29/2023 12:04:51 PM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Williams

Drive on war cheerleader, keep drinking the western MSM whiskey, I do believe you are headed for one heck of a hangover…….of course,time will tell.


66 posted on 01/29/2023 12:05:34 PM PST by delta7
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To: buwaya

These people are anti American kooks.

In my lifetime only the most left wing Anti American jerks have ever said “The world must hate us for a reason”.

I’ve heard them say that as a justification for the 9/11 attacks.

These folks are vermin.


67 posted on 01/29/2023 12:06:24 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: delta7

but but but

You said Ukraine was going away in 2022. What happened?

A lot of dead Russians happened.

You’re like globull warming. Pure hot air.


68 posted on 01/29/2023 12:10:17 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

You don’t get to declare what’s “Anti-American” Wobbly Williams. You are a decrepit, shriveled, nasty old man living a fantasy, detached from reality.

It’s none of your business, but we might have a couple beers later while watching the game. If I think of it we might have a laugh at the expense of useless, deranged people like you.


69 posted on 01/29/2023 12:13:02 PM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Chunga85

You watch football, America hater?

Pearls before the swine.

I bet you’re at a soccer practice with the other divorced moms.


70 posted on 01/29/2023 12:18:44 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Chunga85

History rhymes!
It does - the same or similar causes create the same or similar effects over and over.

But in this case, its really just the same old, same old.

Americans have been getting hit by anti-Americanism continuously since there was a United States. At the same time the US exerted an irresistable draw to, sometimes, the same people.

Its an odd situation, but there we go. People are complicated, and not a lot bother to try to understand their own minds.


71 posted on 01/29/2023 12:20:49 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Williams

Have someone help you check your med cup. I think you forgot take something.


72 posted on 01/29/2023 12:23:09 PM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: AAABEST

Because I am, at least in part, an old Jesuit boy. And like St. Francis Xavier, we learned we should never give up preaching to the pagans and heretics.

I do suggest a bit of an education in the “big picture” of the world. It does require removing mental blinders, though it can upset certain horses.


73 posted on 01/29/2023 12:24:42 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Chunga85

See you’re not watching the game.

What time is Bigram yoga?


74 posted on 01/29/2023 12:24:47 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: delta7

“Ukraine 1991-2023 RIP , the quicker the better.”

This is odd, actually. Why?


75 posted on 01/29/2023 12:26:32 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Williams

Well, we Euros rather like “soccer” - football to us.
It was my sport when I was young and looked much more like Antonio Banderas than I do now.

I had to deliberately learn American football, using the John Madden computer game.


76 posted on 01/29/2023 12:32:24 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Williams

“In my lifetime only the most left wing Anti American jerks have ever said “The world must hate us for a reason”.

In our lifetimes, this is true. This was because of the existence of the great global ideological conflict. The religious wars of our time.

Before that anti-Americanism was a more general matter. Old conservative societies hated being disrupted by crass merchants and peasants, and the US was THE nation of merchants and peasants.

This side of anti-Americanism was however reborn, in the US itself. See Angelo Codevilla.


77 posted on 01/29/2023 12:42:22 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: BusterDog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAND_Corporation
“Not to be confused with American Research and Development Corporation, Remington Rand, Ingersoll Rand, or Sperry Rand.”


78 posted on 01/29/2023 12:51:26 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: BusterDog
The Rand Corporation has long been a leftist outfit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control

A 2020 review of almost 13,000 studies by RAND Corporation found only 123 that met their criteria of methodological rigor, "a surprisingly limited base of rigorous scientific evidence...". Only 2 of the 18 gun policies examined had supporting evidence. Among the policies for which RAND found supporting evidence were that child-access prevention laws reduce firearm injuries and deaths among children and that "stand-your-ground" laws increase firearm homicides. RAND also noted that the limited evidence currently available "does not mean that these policies are ineffective ... Instead, it partly reflects shortcomings in the contributions that science has made to policy debates."[67]

79 posted on 01/29/2023 12:51:37 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: BusterDog

The RAND Corporation is headquartered in Santa Monica, California.


80 posted on 01/29/2023 12:54:00 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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