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How Putin Is Pivoting Away From the Wagner Group
Newsweek ^ | 1/23/2023 | Brendan Cole

Posted on 01/23/2023 8:31:31 AM PST by marcusmaximus

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1 posted on 01/23/2023 8:31:31 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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2 posted on 01/23/2023 8:32:33 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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Russian Army is Collapsing: Great chaos in Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x63S12p3Cf4


3 posted on 01/23/2023 8:32:49 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Two things can be true at once:

We hope every Russian soldier in Ukraine is killed, and

We should stop sending Ukraine money and equipment.

4 posted on 01/23/2023 8:35:22 AM PST by thefactor
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Interesting how our resident GLOBALISTS are making common cause (in propaganda and other things) with their progressive buddies in places such as Newsweek. Are the masks coming off? Just sayin’.


5 posted on 01/23/2023 8:36:19 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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We just did Putin a favor by naming “Wagner Group” as an International Criminal Organization! What will be out payback?


6 posted on 01/23/2023 8:37:47 AM PST by WellyP (question!)
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“Around 80 per cent of Prigozhin’s 50,000-strong force in Ukraine are reportedly convicts”

In fairness it would make sense that rough work calls for rough men.


7 posted on 01/23/2023 8:48:18 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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I so trust Newsweek on Putin.
😆

As they are equally harsh on Biden.

TRUST Newsweek.


8 posted on 01/23/2023 8:56:01 AM PST by RitaOK (Vinmva Christo Rey! Publik Skules/Academia = The Farm Team for more Marxists coming. Infinitum. )
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this is hilarious propaganda!
other trolls will be jealous...
Do they not eat enough dog???
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Your high heel boy Z is having another tough day as uke lines around bakmut may be collapsing!
Ukes evacuated the Kaleeshka area and a town that sounds like Nabisco was captured toward Chssiv Yar where the last remaining supply road exists (and the ukes most likely escape route is closing in). Rus are advancing toward Siversk and captured kosnapolifka.Ukes stretched thin so reinforcing the Zaporiza line will be difficult.
battle lines update below from weeb and mil summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv8XdQYY9ek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6BQK8QVllM


9 posted on 01/23/2023 8:56:26 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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Cons and criminals make lousy soldiers, not good ones.


10 posted on 01/23/2023 8:56:56 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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How can little Ukraine kill the Russians without support?


11 posted on 01/23/2023 8:59:01 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Scott Ritter? LOL!


12 posted on 01/23/2023 9:02:03 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: ansel12

Support is one thing. Endless billions with no accountability is quite another. Stuff like small arms, ammo, drones, MREs, medical supplies, and even MRAPS are fine. But nothing we give them should affect our own readiness.


13 posted on 01/23/2023 9:06:06 AM PST by thefactor
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In fairness it would make sense that rough work calls for rough men.

Life doesn't always imitate art, and vice-versa. The Dirty Dozen had Telly Savalis.

14 posted on 01/23/2023 9:10:40 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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I was responding to your post, if you want Russians killed then you have to give the Ukrainians the tools they need.


15 posted on 01/23/2023 9:14:07 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Incarcerated men would also be more acceptable as casualties than good men.

I’ve often wondered why the US didn’t empty our prisons and airdrop all of our convicts on Afghanistan instead of sacrificing so many good men and trillions. And for what?


16 posted on 01/23/2023 9:15:56 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Pearls Before Swine; MeganC

Criminals are not known for being “rough men”, they are the opposite, they tend to laziness, instant gratification, cowardliness, fear of confrontation with “rough men”, fear of anything hard, avoidance of bad weather, and physical discomfort, the criminal life is for those who find a simple daily job too much for them, much less the iron will and discipline, sense of teamwork, and willingness to endure hardship and stay on a mission that one finds in quality troops.

Ever wonder why blacks can be fine athletes but rarely make it as elite troops? There is far more to toughness in the wet and cold and the dark, and the dangerous, than merely being athletic enough to run 10 miles and lift weights.


17 posted on 01/23/2023 9:24:18 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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“”I’ve often wondered why the US didn’t empty our prisons and airdrop all of our convicts on Afghanistan””

To do what, sell stolen goods and open black markets, to set up brothels, rape, rob, and murder, ignore orders, go on patrols and just sit down when out of sight of the base, to retreat instead of fighting to the death for things the sociopath doesn’t care about to lie, cheat, and steal in an organization that deals in guns, food, gasoline, explosives, pensions, vehicles and that depends on honesty, teamwork, and dependability?

To forge supply sheets and hijack our supply trucks, to do what?


18 posted on 01/23/2023 9:32:01 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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I used the word “hope” in my post. Wanting an outcome while not directly facilitating that outcome are not mutually exclusive. But again, I’m fine with certain aid. Just not infinite aid that never actually makes it to the front lines.


19 posted on 01/23/2023 9:33:16 AM PST by thefactor
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I wasn’t worried about any lofty national security objectives. Emptying our prisons and dumping the convicts in Afghanistan INSTEAD of sending our troops there would have saved us a bunch of money.

And a few hundred thousand hardened criminals would have kept the Taliban busy.


20 posted on 01/23/2023 9:38:20 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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