Posted on 01/20/2023 9:37:28 PM PST by devere
There’s a third possibility. You’ll hear about it soon enough. Too long to explain here.
Trump was an anti-vaxxer long before Covid, by the way.
So what, nobody gives a rip about all the stupid things they do there, because logic can’t be applied to it. Trying to say the whole country was locked down because idiot liberals were virtue signaling one another in their little insane asylums is just incorrect. Most wouldn’t care if they were still locked down, some of them probably even still are in one way or another.
It was a political decision. He publicly whined when the SwampJab was not technically approved till a few days after the election - because that is what it was about to him.
Regardless. Thinking that creating an evil tool of oppression, the garbage jab, would somehow stop tyrants from being tyrannical was just plain dumb and a terrible reason for disastrous decisions.
Lockdowns were a disaster. Mandates were worse. And were quite predictable as inevitable once the genetic key to tyranny was given to the enemies of Freedom.
When tempted to think Trump's SwampJab and related Warp Speed clumsiness helped prevent mandates, consider this:
Had we followed the wisdom of real science and standard safety - there would have been no dang vax or fake vax to consider mandating until two or three prez races down the road.
Trump did it for votes.
And screwed the world.
You people really need to get a real life.
“Trump did it for votes.
And screwed the world.”
Nope. Patience, Grasshopper.
Trump never called for mandates. It’s simply a fact that his vaccine helped restore freedom for tens of millions of Americans whose governors and mayors and school officials could no longer maintain their lockdowns once the Jan was available. Lockdowns we’re killing people. Trumps vaccine was crucial to ending them
There was evidence that hydroxychloroquine together with zinc stopped the replication of the SARS-COV2 virus (not exactly the COVID-19, but similar). It was believed that the same effect would happen with COVID-19.
Coronavirus Epidemic Update 34: US Cases Surge, Chloroquine & Zinc Treatment Combo, Italy Lockdown. The end of this video also shows the effects of HCQ in getting the zinc into the cells.
Coronavirus Pandemic Update 35: New Outbreaks & Travel Restrictions, Possible COVID-19 Treatments (Quercetin). This video adds Quercetin to the mix of zinc ionophores.
-PJ
Why defend the indefensible?
The so-called vaccine is destructive at the very least, and deadly at worst.
It was never tested for long term side effects, so there is no justification for presuming it was either safe or effective, which it has proved to be neither.
In the whole history of drug development, especially since the thalidomide debacle, nothing was ever presumed safe until it was shown to be dangerous. On the contrary, it was supposed to be considered dangerous until proved safe with thorough and long term testing, which this poison got neither.
And even then any drug was still open to scrutiny and immediate pulling upon discovery of issues, like DES
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/hormones/des-fact-sheet
Vioxx
https://www.npr.org/2007/11/10/5470430/timeline-the-rise-and-fall-of-vioxx
and the original SARS vaccine
https://www.history.com/news/swine-flu-rush-vaccine-election-year-1976.
There can be no justification for fast tracking the COVID vaccine and brushing off lives destroyed and lost due to the shots as collateral damage is reprehensible.
There was no justification for the lockdowns either. I lived in NYS during that time and remember that the more they locked down, the greater the spread, and that cuomo was shocked that that happened, which anyone with any sense could have expected.
Additionally, we were in the process of watching Sweden effectively deal with Covid with NO lockdowns and before the vax rollout.
It was an attempt at humor and had zero to do with election fraud.
You make some legitimate points. But how does me supporting the vaccine - as an emergency measure to end destructive lockdowns that were killing old people and damaging kids - make me a “nevertrumper”?
No, he just made them inevitable.
With the horribly hyped fear campaign from the Trump admin, anybody not knowing mandates would happen is not somebody I want in charge.
Lockdowns, rushed / fake vaccines and mandates are ALL terrible and ALL unnecessary from the beginning.
Saying we needed one poison to avoid another is fatally damaged reasoning.
Pfizer CEO says Trump told him vaccine ‘will help me’ with election
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/546719-pfizer-ceo-says-trump-told-him-vaccine-would-help/
Surely, you don't mean me. There is no more staunch defender here of the concept of a Free Republic than this jackass.
I don’t mean to seem disrespectful, but are you sure you’re on the right forum? The anti-Trump dogma lives loudly in you .
And the mail in ballots, lockdowns, travel restrictions… handing leadership over to Fauci was either impotence, incompetence or complicity.
If you read the pdf put out by the federal Gov on Crimson Contagion simulation/pandemic exercise, you will know. In hindsight it reads like the script for covid-19, right down to lack of supplies et al.
Quite believable.
Something The Don said when the approval was some days late for his real purposes:
All the forces involved "didn't want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later"
I grant The Don that folks involved are corrupt. But the statement shows his selfish focus.
According to RFK Jr, Trump had invited him to be part of his incoming administration, who is well known for his overall anti-vax views.
Supposedly, when word got out, according to Kennedy, Pfizer started making donations to Trump, and Trump pulled the rug out from Kennedy and gave jobs to Pfizer execs like Gottlieb and Azar instead. Both RFK and Bill Gates claim Trump even offered Gates a position in the Trump administration, but Gates turned him down.
All of that is easily confirmed if you look, here’s one example.
Interview of Gates on turning Trump’s job offer down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0krtoKb8GU
I'm a Freedom guy. Where should I be?
I'm not anti-Trump, specifically. I'm anti-dumb and dangerous ideas. Some of which have come from The Don.
I rightly recognize Trump as a populist. Those types need to be pushed in the Right direction. Making excuses for his mistakes ... is a mistake. It will not help our cause.
I'll vote for him again if he wins the nom. I trust you will for the R nominee regardless who it is as well. There is not another mature option.
“Dims never let a crisis go to waste”
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Sadly, I agree with what you wrote. They will accomplish two purposes. Get the blame off of themselves, and destroy Trump.
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