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Russia Not Yet Defeated - Ukraine Will Lose to Russia Unless It Makes a Deal
American Greatness ^ | January 13, 2023 | Brandon J. Weichert

Posted on 01/15/2023 10:21:18 AM PST by wildcard_redneck

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To: tlozo
As for HIMARS, as soon as they showed up, the russian advance stopped and Ukraine was able to conduct two counter offenses

Dream on Brandon!

Russkies pulled out of those areas well before the so-called advance. 20 HIMARS launchers had nothing to do with it!

Plus, exactly how have those two offenses worked out? Russikies still control 20% of the country (and growing) against the full assault of $150 billion in aid and equipment of the US & NATO.

101 posted on 01/16/2023 5:26:17 AM PST by icclearly
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To: familyop
They need the better equipment from western countries.

What the hell has $150 billion dollars in aid been used for, then??

102 posted on 01/16/2023 5:28:29 AM PST by icclearly
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To: tlozo
Advisor: NATO troops have not arrived yet

Putin: Well, we need to have the prisoners and rag-tag Wagner Group move on from the capture of Soledar and Bakhmut to finish our control of eastern Uke. After all, NATO only spent eight years building up a force to stop us. NATO needs to send in the rest of its troops. We can destroy them like we have the troops they trained and supported for eight years!

103 posted on 01/16/2023 5:40:31 AM PST by icclearly
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To: icclearly
Russkies pulled out of those areas well before the so-called advance

Right, right it was a victorious strategic russian withdrawal from half of Ukrainian conquered territories. Crazy sh_t but keep believing it.


104 posted on 01/16/2023 6:08:14 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo
but keep believing it.

Thank you.

Yes. I will continue to believe it 'cause it's the truth! Something you undoubtedly don't know much about, Brandon.

105 posted on 01/16/2023 8:34:33 AM PST by icclearly
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To: icclearly
"What the hell has $150 billion dollars in aid been used for, then??"

Most of it hasn't been used, yet. Much of it is also for humanitarian aid. The Russians intend to keep the war going for years.

106 posted on 01/16/2023 12:20:54 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: delta7
"I stand by my observation. China and Russia are the only majors left to stop the Green New Deal, Carbon Credits, the Great Reset, the spread of homosexuality, Transgenderism, boys in girls bathrooms, men in woman’s sports, gay marriage, the list is long.

Do keep in mind the collective West codifies into law and spreads their debased morality. China and Russia do not, in fact they codified laws against the filth."

The CCP officially decriminalized homos in 1997 and removed them from their standard book of mental disorders in 2001. The CCP approved civil marriages of homos via yiding jianhu ("guardianship appointment") in 2017. There are so many trannies and chopadik centers in Beijing and HK and Shanghai you can't swing a dead cat without hitting one. The mf'ing PLA Military General Hospital in Beijing performs bottom and top surgery!

107 posted on 01/16/2023 12:37:49 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: StAnDeliver

Well the obvious answer is they will suffer ( like us) for it.


108 posted on 01/16/2023 2:39:50 PM PST by delta7
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To: familyop
Most of it hasn't been used, yet. Much of it is also for humanitarian aid.

Says who?

Where is the source for your outlandish claim?

You expect us to believe that the Russians have captured 20% of Uke territory, blown up the Uke electrical system, and have been at this for 11 months and the $150 billion the NYT, CNN, WAPO, and all the mainstream media, including Biden, crow about every day is not there?

Give me a break!

109 posted on 01/16/2023 5:48:42 PM PST by icclearly
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To: icclearly

blown up the Uke electrical system…

Ukraine is a big, big place. The Russian missiles are hitting some infrastructure…but most of it is repaired within a day or so. Sure, there has been some success, but I’ve heard first hand accounts that there are more misses than hits.

80 missiles a week in a country that size is pretty ineffective. Consider how many were launched during the Iraqi invasions.

Also, where is the Russian Air Force. If they held the air over Ukraine there would be much more damage. Where are the heavy Russian bombers?

So many questions that don’t seem to get answered.


110 posted on 01/16/2023 6:00:30 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: icclearly
"...and the $150 billion the NYT, CNN, WAPO, and all the mainstream media, including Biden, crow about every day is not there?"

That's correct. It's being spent here, little by little, to send military and humanitarian items to Ukraine.

111 posted on 01/16/2023 10:06:53 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Vermont Lt
So many questions that don’t seem to get answered.

There are a few key questions THAT HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.....

-Russia controls 20% of Ukaraine
-They just captured Solodar and Bakmut, where the Ukes and NATO have had eight years to dig in and fortify
-40% to 50% of the electrical grid is no longer working
-The Ukes have lost most of the war machinery they started with, as evidenced by the "Zelensky begging machine" constantly asking for more

That's all you need to know.

If you're okay with sending the Ukes $150 billion of your tax dollars in less than a year with no accountability and no evidence it has made any difference, then you are a fool.

Let you, your children, and your grandchildren pay for it. Not me and mine!

112 posted on 01/17/2023 5:40:36 AM PST by icclearly
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To: icclearly; Vermont Lt; tlozo; familyop; ifinnegan; ought-six; USA-FRANCE; canuck_conservative; ...

Please stop your repeatedly posted lie about Russia controlling 20% of Ukraine. That is SOOO last fall. Also, your 4 “key questions” HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED, except with lies. Obviously you don’t C Clearly, at least if you look at the territory control maps shown repeatedly at Ukraine threads.

—Russian control has shrunk from 20% to only 13%. Territory lost south of Kharkiv, and surrounding Kherson.
—Status of all Solidar and Bahkmut still unclear. Not clear Tussia/Wagner will want or be able to keep these ruins.
—After a nightly nombing 40% to 50% of the grid may be off for a few days, hardly permanently.
—Ukraine may have lost a lot of war material they had, but Russia has been very generous with resupply.

But dream on traitor, or Russian troll (in which case you are a patriot). And if you are, I hope your vision clears and you soon see the stupidity of this NOT “WAR” your President for life foolishly started.


113 posted on 01/17/2023 8:37:26 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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To: StAnDeliver
Please note

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https://www.rferl.org/a/how-to-guide-russian-trolling-trolls/26919999.html

114 posted on 01/17/2023 9:04:06 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: gleeaikin; All

Most pro Putin guys we have detected here on FR are actually Russian digital warriors. They do what they have to do for the kremlin.

There are also a few, not many, American citizens here unconsciously pushing the Putin Soviet agenda - they just have not realized it yet. However, it’s just a question of time before they will awaken - I see some of them have started to change their tune for the better.
Truth always wins, it’s just a question of time.


115 posted on 01/17/2023 9:04:26 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: gleeaikin

Don’t know why you included me in your screed. I have been pretty clear in my disdain for Russia, Russians, and most vodkas.


116 posted on 01/17/2023 9:25:06 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt; All

I am sorry if I offended. I was responding to the lies that had been sent to you, and thought you and others who are supporting Ukraine or countering pro Russia lies or propaganda might enjoy seeing the fight back.


117 posted on 01/17/2023 10:14:54 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin; Vermont Lt

I appreciate it. Thanks for the good work.


118 posted on 01/17/2023 11:53:20 AM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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