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Expect more strikes 'deeper and deeper' into Russia, Ukraine’s spy chief tells ABC News
ABC News ^ | 04 Jan 2023 | yBritt Clennett, Dragana Jovanovic, and Tatiana Rymarenko

Posted on 01/04/2023 10:54:41 PM PST by blueplum

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To: KTM rider

“the answer is so glaringly obvious that if you cannot see it now then 4 pages of explanation would be a waste of time.”

So give me the Cliff Notes version.

As for January 6, I think there is good evidence the feds were involved in it, possibly more than we presently know. I really don’t care if you agree or disagree.


41 posted on 01/08/2023 1:08:22 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: blueplum

Place a 120 mm mortar about three miles east of the air base at Engels. In the gullies. Carefully aim about 15-20 rounds of white phosphorus up and down the runway apron. There are Tu-160s and Tu-95s there. You can do a huge amount of damage to the striking power of the Russian Air Force with a relatively small investment. Then get the crew out pronto.

Takes careful planning and a lot of recon to prepare, but it will pay off handsomely.


42 posted on 01/08/2023 1:17:18 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: ought-six
OK , lets have it your way, I will present 3 points

The first point about who is at fault you have already dismissed out of hand which is the typical knee jerk reaction of you warmongers who will twist the facts to support the justification for war

the second point of outrageous and totally unjustified financial support, you will brush aside because the cost of war is always justified against the enemy being demonized

the third point is about weighing the cost of supporting a CIA planted zelenski in order to allow globalists to milk trillion$ of USD by yoking future generations to debt will only cause humanitarian suffering beyond imagination ( because we wont feel the bombs dropping only the fallout of hyperinflation) but you will find a way to justify mass casualties anyway that outweighs any capitulation by Zelenski to comply with Russias reasonable demands.

there you have it , 2 minutes of typing a waste of words

43 posted on 01/08/2023 1:37:04 PM PST by KTM rider (, or how Ambassador Stevens was killed because he was about to testify before the UN council )
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“OK , lets have it your way, I will present 3 points
The first point about who is at fault you have already dismissed out of hand which is the typical knee jerk reaction of you warmongers who will twist the facts to support the justification for war.”

Well, Russia first invaded Ukraine on February 20, 2014 when it moved into Crimea. Russia moved troops (”advisors”) into eastern Ukraine to encourage and coordinate separatist movements there. Russia provided weapons and assistance to the separatists, one of which was used to shoot down civilian airliner MH17 in July, 2014, killing all on board. Then, of course, Russia invaded Ukraine in a general invasion on February 24, 2022. So, who started the war? Sentient beings know it was Russia. Yet, you say I’M the warmonger? If I were a warmonger I would have encouraged Ukraine to invade Russia about nine years ago. But, of course, I didn’t. You say I’m a warmonger because I think Ukraine has the right to defend itself against a stronger and larger country that invaded it without provocation.

“the second point of outrageous and totally unjustified financial support, you will brush aside because the cost of war is always justified against the enemy being demonized.”

You sound very young, as you clearly have no personal memory of the USSR. The USSR collapsed about 30 years ago, but its bullying mindset didn’t die along with it (just ask Chechnya and the country of Georgia). And, why do you think all those former Soviet satellite countries in eastern Europe clamored to join NATO? Because they had lived under Russian tyranny and domination for decades and wanted no repeat performance.

As for the financial cost of supporting Ukraine in its existential threat from Russia, it’s a damn sight cheaper than the alternative.

As for your third point, that is straight out of the Russian talking points it hopes its useful idiots in the West will repeat ad nauseum. Is Ukraine corrupt? Yup. But, do you know who is MORE corrupt than Ukraine? Russia. Go ahead and look it up; there are multiple lists on line from a variety of sources.

Oh, Russia’s “reasonable demands?” Its “reasonable demands” to Ukraine are that Ukraine give up a third of its territory and the vast majority of its natural resources to a country whose leader is on record saying that Ukraine isn’t even a legitimate country, and that it has no right to exist as one.

Only a Russian or a pro-Russia water-carrier would think those demands are reasonable.


44 posted on 01/08/2023 2:06:26 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
You made my point

slam dunk

45 posted on 01/08/2023 5:44:15 PM PST by KTM rider (, or how Ambassador Stevens was killed because he was about to testify before the UN council )
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To: KTM rider

The only point you made is that you, KTM rider, should have worn a helmet when you rode your bike to prevent the brain damage.

It is clear that facts terrify you, and you flee from them with all haste (and don’t forget to wear that helmet!).


46 posted on 01/09/2023 6:37:40 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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The only point you made is that you, KTM rider, should have worn a helmet when you rode your bike to prevent the brain damage.

It is clear that facts terrify you, and you flee from them with all haste (and don’t forget to wear that helmet!).


47 posted on 01/09/2023 6:37:40 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
Same to you but more of it

your grandma wears army boots

your mother dresses yo funny

Hey maybe you can get a room with Lindsey Graham or Mitch McConnel , you guys think alike

48 posted on 01/09/2023 9:35:02 AM PST by KTM rider (, or how Ambassador Stevens was killed because he was about to testify before the UN council )
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To: KTM rider

Grow up, son.


49 posted on 01/09/2023 9:42:02 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
You totally lost the debate and reinforced and proved all of the points I presented.

Yet somehow you think I am the one with brain damage

We are so screwed ! , even the "conservative" side is loaded with useful idiots and suckers that fall for the war machine propaganda, I imagine you are still gazing with a blank stare at Fox news and regurgitating the Idiocracy

50 posted on 01/09/2023 9:42:55 AM PST by KTM rider (, or how Ambassador Stevens was killed because he was about to testify before the UN council )
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“You totally lost the debate and reinforced and proved all of the points I presented.”

No, son; YOU lost it. I presented facts; you presented emotion. Facts always trump emotion.


51 posted on 01/09/2023 9:45:33 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
you are full of B.S. period end of story

now go join the mercenary soldiers of fortune and go kill Putin and stop spouting the same old tired war monger rhetoric printed in your brain since childhood

52 posted on 01/09/2023 9:52:40 AM PST by KTM rider (, or how Ambassador Stevens was killed because he was about to testify before the UN council )
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Nice try, son.


53 posted on 01/09/2023 9:57:33 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
maybe you should get a job with the CIA or FBI as a spook

you would be a perfect fit

I know you will want to have the last word so have at it

you are welcome to call me names again since you ran out of logic and all of your talking points get repeated daily by the propaganda machine and I know them already anyway

54 posted on 01/09/2023 9:59:47 AM PST by KTM rider (, or how Ambassador Stevens was killed because he was about to testify before the UN council )
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To: ought-six
FYI

I used to think just like you

until I started thinking for myself and looking deeper into the subject of war.

so lets stop fighting and "bless your heart"

I understand

55 posted on 01/09/2023 10:06:32 AM PST by KTM rider (, or how Ambassador Stevens was killed because he was about to testify before the UN council )
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