Posted on 12/25/2022 6:04:46 PM PST by familyop
“So what agreement did we break?”
The West broke Minsk 2 and now ADMITS IT, but then you know that, and thus are just TROLLING when you ask that question.
In any case, good luck trying to get Russia to agree to anything but UNCONDITIONAL Ukrainian surrender. And the thing is, it didn’t have to be that way...
“That was the past,”
Yes it was.
Yeah, that clown wants to ethnically cleanse the US Military of any references or memorials of anything confederate. Even the Reunification Monument at West Poing. He’s a CNN analyst. He’s a clown.
“Russia has not lost its imperial ambitions.”
So it appears.
LOL, its hard to break an agreement, you didn't sign.
Signatories
The document was signed by:
Separatist's leaders Alexander Zakharchenko and Igor Plotnitsky
Swiss diplomat and OSCE representative Heidi Tagliavini
Former president of Ukraine and Ukrainian representative Leonid Kuchma
Russian Ambassador to Ukraine and Russian representative Mikhail Zurabov
“LOL, its hard to break an agreement, you didn’t sign.”
Go take it to the UN, and good luck.
Right, so who in the West signed the agreement?
“Right, so who in the West signed the agreement?”
“Leaders of Belarus, Russia, Germany, France, and Ukraine at the summit in Minsk, 11–12 February 2015”
Its hysterical that you accuse the 'west' of breaking Minsk when they didn't sign it, when even though there is a signature of the Russian ambassador on it, Russia claims its not a party to Minsk.
Diplomat reminds US, Ukraine that Russia is not a party to Minsk agreements
Maria Zakharova stressed that the Package of Measures was mandatory for the parties to the intra-Ukrainian conflict: Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk
Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has stressed that Russia is not a party to the Minsk agreements and urged the US Embassy in Moscow to inform the US diplomatic mission in Kiev about that.
https://tass.com/world/1334327
“Its hysterical that you accuse the ‘west’ of breaking Minsk when they didn’t sign it”
No, I just don’t litigate treaties. Again, take it to the UN, or better yet, do what Jimmy Carter did when our hostages were taken and go the World Court.
And no, not interested in your opinion...because you’re not going to help the Neocons by trying to parse words in Minsk 2.
So they are at Minsk, did they all sign? No
Signatories
The document was signed by:
Separatist's leaders Alexander Zakharchenko and Igor Plotnitsky
Swiss diplomat and OSCE representative Heidi Tagliavini
Former president of Ukraine and Ukrainian representative Leonid Kuchma
Russian Ambassador to Ukraine and Russian representative Mikhail Zurabov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements
You don;t have to 'litigate' the treaty, just look up who signed it.
“You don;t have to ‘litigate’ the treaty, just look up who signed it.”
Again it doesn’t matter, as I don’t litigate treaties. Again, take your case to the UN, I can give you a link if you needed it.
As far as the rest of the world is concerned, the FAILURE to implement Minsk 2 is why this war started, and Merkel saying Minsk 2 was a SHAM, from the start, is the reason.
And your cute attempts at parsing the treaty isn’t going to change a damn thing.
Again it doesn’t matter, as I don’t litigate treaties.
Or look up signatories of a treaty, while incorrectly saying the 'West' broke Minsk 2.
“Or look up signatories of a treaty, while incorrectly saying the ‘West’ broke Minsk 2.”
Again, take your parsing to the UN. Unlike the Neocons, I never went to the Kennedy School to learn how to finish off the US as a superpower.
Simply establishing who exactly is part of the treaty by checking who signed the treaty, is according to you "parsing". Its ridiculous to accuse the West of violating Minsk 2 when NO western leader or their Foreign Minister or ambassador signed Minsk 2.
In great irony, Russian ambassador actually signed Minsk 2, but the Kremlin spokeswoman said Russia is not a party to the Minsk agreements.
Diplomat reminds US, Ukraine that Russia is not a party to Minsk agreements
https://tass.com/world/1334327
There are PLENTY of Neocon and Globalists forums for your type.
Again, take you litigation there, see what they have to say, and then come back to us. Right now what you claim means nothing here.
Hertling is on the American Battle Monuments Commission. It is the The Naming Commission created by Congress in 2021 as a short term independent agency that is removing Confederate symbols from military facilities.
Both agencies are independent from each other. Hertling has no involvement and no authority over removing monuments. Not only is it irrelevant to his experiences dealing with Russian counterparts, it is false.
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