At least four countries have a claim and all of them know Ukraine is an illegitimate failed state.
Posted on 12/09/2022 9:18:22 AM PST by Right Wing Vegan
They’re better off with a thousand Ukrainians than even a single Muslim.
Allot of people making money off this fiasco!
In 1850 Ukrainians survived without electricity, oil or natural gas.
And by the mid to late 1970's, there was a comedy skit about "Two Wild And Crazy Guys". I wonder how large a Ukranian vacuum cleaner is.
They were Russians in 1850, Ukraine didn’t exist.
In 1850 the Russian Federation didn’t exist either. So what’s your point?
The DPs fit in and assimilated.
Unlike the fake “refugees” from Central and South America.
We “need” immigrants?
Not really.
But if we have to have them, Ukrainians who are refugees from a real war would be way better then phony opportunists from the Thurd World.
Gotta be amazed how automatically the comments depicting migration/refugees as cute, quaint and normal churn out on these threads.
In 1850 there was an entire system that supported daily life, small businesses, offices, factories, cities, apartment buildings, and hotels before electricity and gas, it was routine and at every store, supplies/suppliers, and equipment, and appliances for the kitchen, heating the house, and water, lighting, and energy for heavy equipment, today almost none of that is available or in homes, except for some wood stoves and camping equipment.
People say that about cars on prepper threads, “simply get a horse” forgetting that the horse world of everything that was needed and wanted, even the millions of horses, are no longer there except in a tiny boutique way, in a few places.
The world of horses was once a carbon copy of the auto world today, the parking lots and indoor parking, repair shops, filling stations and parts stores everywhere, every kind of wagon and carriage, used horse lots, new horse factories, a vast system of support and sales that no longer exists
Thanks for helping Ukraine Estonia and Estonians
May you be blessed...
It was called the Russian Empire back then, and Little Russia (ie Ukraine) was part of it.
So what’s your point?
Ukrainians are Russian no matter what else they say.
So you claim that the Russian Federation is the same as the Russian Empire? And then it must also be the same as the USSR, right?
All of Europe, the USA and Canada need to be ready for a massive influx of refugees from Ukraine soon. South America should invite them in too. Millions of good hardworking people will make any nation better.
But for the Soviet Union, Ukraine as an independent entity would never have come into existence...is that what your trying to say?
Yes, modern Ukraine is a Communist manifestation.
Then so is Russia a communist manifestation with the head of state and head of the state church both former Communist Party members and both former KGB agents.
No...as previously discussed, Imperial Russia predated Communist Russia by centuries.
There was no pre-Communist version of Ukraine, it simply did not exist.
You’re missing the point. When the USSR broke up Russia had no claim on any of the former Soviet states. Ukraine included.
So you can also see the bleeding heart comments on here about how we just gotta help while our own borders are invaded, we’re drowning in federal debt, etc. Arguments from Zeepers ultimately boil down to three things, and they revolve around liberal, bleeding heart gotta help arguments:
A.) Zeepers say that Putin has acted despotically, B.) that he needs to be fought, and that C.) he will invade all of Europe if we don’t fight a proxy war in Ukraine.
Problem is, concerning A-C.):
Zelensky, from reports by both the political left and the right has acted despotically in numerous ways since coming to power. And this is an important point since coming from both sides they thus aren’t partisan attack against Zelensky whereas the Zeepers here are partisans.
B.) Zeepers here are the same people that say we needed to fight in Iraq, say we need to fight Iran, said we needed to send troops into Syria under Obama/Biden, said we needed to fight Lybia under Obama/Biden, said we needed to fight in Yemen under Obama/Biden, say we need to fight now in Somalia, say we need to fight in Ukraine, etc, etc.
C.) Lastly, Zeepers here have no evidence that Putin possesses the requisite army that could possibly take and keep land outside of Ukraine, and they have no decent argument yet that Putin would attack NATO troops outside of Ukraine despite making claims on both.
And yet we can see the Zeepers here just want unending war and don’t seem to care that liberal Democrats are the ones who get the U.S. into more wars than anyone else.
Liberal Dems on cable TV, RINOs in gov’t, and liberal Democrat voters have been Zelenky’s biggest supporters, funders, they have went over to Ukraine to shake his hand, etc, nor do the Zeepers here at FR show how they are upset by any of this.
Zeepers have an insatiable desire for unending war, use emotional appeals on how bad Russia is (and how saintly Ukraine and Zel are when they aren’t), they wouldn’t mind $500 bil or a trillion being spent in Ukraine, and don’t care that Dems were behind the 2014 coup in Ukraine.
At least four countries have a claim and all of them know Ukraine is an illegitimate failed state.
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