We have no proof she did receive the vaccine. It’s highly unlikely, given that only 7% of children five and under in Canada ever received any Covid vaccine, and only 7.8% of children 5-11 received either vaccine or booster in the past six months.
We do know that she had such a severe case of influenza she had to be hospitalized. We also know that influenza can cause myocarditis and stoke:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4114885/posts?page=25#25
There are a number of studies published in respected medical journals showing an increased incidence of myocarditis after Covid vaccination. No one has bullied these authors or journals into silence.
I agree every case of a child dying with myocarditis should be looked into for a connection and not dismissed. But blaming the vaccine when a child dies of what her doctors say were complications of severe influenza, known complications, when there is no evidence she ever received any Covid vaccine, and the odds are mightily against it, is simply not logical.
The “Died Suddenly” movie? No thanks. It’s full of silly tricks. The basketball player shown collapsing? That video was taken before the vaccines when became available. The deaths they list? One was actually from a car accident, one from a fall, etc. As for the embalmer and the blood clots, I debunked that guy’s claims here on FR long ago. They’re regular old postmortem “chicken fat” clots.
You may not like this Australian article that facts checks that movie, but if you have an open mind, you will at least consider it (contains lots of links, too):
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-02/fact-check-debunking-died-suddenly/101720550
Again, I do not think these vaccines should be pushed on anyone, and most especially not on children.
You still have not provided the link for that graph you keep posting. Why is that? As you will not provide it yourself, I will oblige. It has been passed around on social media and originated from a dubious site operated by some woman in California who has no background in science but does have an axe to grind (no wonder you are ashamed to post the link):
https://openvaers.com/covid-data/myo-pericarditis
Your graph has been checked and found to be based on wildly inflated numbers:
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The data [reflected in the graph] includes reports after all vaccines from the years 2010 to 2021 and appears to show more than 11,000 reports for 2021 alone, compared to very low numbers in previous years.
The graph, originally published on website OpenVAERS (here), shows reports of the conditions after all available vaccines.
OpenVAERS has yet to respond to a Reuters request to detail their search methodology but a Reuters analysis of VAERS entries for “myocarditis” and “pericarditis” found fewer than 3,500 instances.
The CDC confirmed to Reuters a total of 2,337 reports of myocarditis in VAERS for all vaccines from 1990 to Nov. 11, 2021.
Of those, 1,969 myocarditis or pericarditis reports concerned people aged 30 and younger who received COVID-19 vaccines.
The CDC and FDA investigated the reports and, through interviews with medical providers and medical record reviews, confirmed 1,005 cases met the criteria for myocarditis, pericarditis, or myopericarditis. The CDC’s case definitions can be found here (page 978, Table 1).
Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-usa/fact-check-graph-showing-increase-in-myo-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-does-not-confirm-link-idUSL1N2SA1EN
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Yes, I know you’ll holler about Reuters being lefty, but the numbers are what they are. And they square with the numbers in peer-reviewed studies in respected medical journals, while those in your graph from a highly dubious website do not. And you have offered no corroborating sources. Do you have any, or you only have this lone graph which is unsupported and has no annotation and no explanation of methodology?
You have repeatedly championed VAERS as a reliable source, yet disparage it when the numbers are not to your liking. You can’t have it both ways. Same with the CDC.
I have not lied. I faithfully copied and pasted the figures given in the studies I cited.
You carry on about underreporting to VAERS, yet seem to believe this only happens with the Covid vaccines. Again, you can’t have it both ways. You claim “some health care providers” are “punished” for reporting to VAERS, but this is merely your assertion.
You say “if trash is reported to VAERS it is their intention to include it” — yet the figures given in the JAMA study and the Reuters piece above are the numbers checked and verified by the CDC, not the raw numbers.
I did not “rewrite” the numbers in the JAMA article, but correctly copied them. Anyone can check it. If you have a problem with the numbers cited in the JAMA article, then you need to say the JAMA article is wrong rather than accusing me of being wrong or lying or rewriting. I snuck in nothing and was not “sneaky”. I simply provided the figures as given in a peer-reviewed medical journal, and a highly respected one at that. You have only a graph created by some woman in California with no methodology provided, and which conflicts with the CDC figures (see the Reuters article, above) — one might call it “ hideous overstatement” if given to tabloid style purple prose.
Why are you complaining that the figures in the JAMA article are from VAERS data and therefore wrong, yet claim the graph you posted that is purportedly based on VAERS data is correct? Hello? Why do you think your graph supposedly using VAERS data is correct, but the JAMA article is “wrong” and “sneaky” because it uses VAERS data? You *do* understand your graph claims to use VAERS data, don’t you?
>>>>>”ransomnote: LOOK.AT.THE.GRAPH I’ve posted. Smallpox and all other post vax reports compared with Covid post vax reports. It refutes your pointless assertions. Small Pox vaccines are in the graph but so small and inconsequential. You’re still using the VAERS subset as if it is the actual number of cases per Covid vax in the entire vaxxed population.”<<<<<<
Your graph claims there were over 11,000 reports of myocarditis to VAERS in 2021 alone. From the Reuters article: “The CDC confirmed to Reuters a total of 2,337 reports of myocarditis in VAERS for all vaccines from 1990 to Nov. 11, 2021. Of those, 1,969 myocarditis or pericarditis reports concerned people aged 30 and younger who received COVID-19 vaccines. The CDC and FDA investigated the reports and, through interviews with medical providers and medical record reviews, confirmed 1,005 cases met the criteria for myocarditis, pericarditis, or myopericarditis.”
So yes, there were *considerably* more cases reported for the Covid vaccines than for all other vaccines. No question there. But only a small fraction of the number shown in your graph.
Your graph does not include smallpox vaccines, other than perhaps the few given this year for monkeypox and a few other rare uses. The only time smallpox vaccines have been given in the US since 1972 in any significant numbers were to military deployed to specific areas, and the even then, the numbers are tiny compared to the numbers of Covid vaccines given in 2021 and 2022. Therefore the incidence of myocarditis per 100,000 for each vaccine can be compared, but not the total numbers of cases reported. Your graph shows total numbers, not incidence per 100,000. See:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00042032.htm
You claim “vaccine harm”is clinically identical to influenza without providing any proof for your assertion.
Furthermore, you continue to ignore the very low rate of vaccination in children five and under in Canada (7%), and the very low rate of children 5-11 who received a Covid vaccine or booster within the past six months (7.8%). You have no idea whether the little girl received a Covid vaccine. Odds are she did not.
You claim “The PCR methodology is not appropriate for diagnosing any illness, including influenza, so we don’t know what, if any, infection she had.” Again, with no evidence. This is merely your assertion. You bragged about using CDC data earlier in your post, so here’s this:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/diagnosis/molecular-assays.htm
Where is your evidence that such tests are “not appropriate”? Why are you twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to claim this poor child died of a vaccine she very likely never received rather than from influenza as diagnosed in a hospital? When, statistically, myocarditis is far more likely caused by a viral infection than by the vaccine, especially in a girl her age?
>>>>>>Ransomnote wrote: “The Covid ‘vaccine’ failed animal trials because, while the animals developed the desired antibodies, when they were exposed to an actual virus, their immune systems over reacted (because of the vax) and created the congestion, coughing, fever etc. all signs of influenza. But the immune system overheats until the person or lab animal dies.”<<<<<<<
Care to provide evidence for this? How about a link?
It’s true that vaccines for SARS-1 when tested on animals resulted in pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus. The animals did not die of illness in the studies I read, but rather were sacrificed so their lung tissue could be studied. This is why these types of vaccines were not even tried for Covid-19.
I did not intentionally mistype your name. Spellchecker did. I will ignore the rest of your outbursts and unwarranted insults and accusations. I think any sane person of goodwill can see who is being honest and using fact based reason here, and providing links so others can check the source.
>>>>>Ransomnote wrote: “I’ve posted scientific articles for almost 2 years now and I object to your distorting quotes from JAMA to deceive people.” ≤<<<<<<
I have not distorted any quotes from the JAMA article. I provided links to the JAMA article and quoted from it. Anyone can check my quotes and the article itself and ascertain I did not distort anything, but faithfully copied the figures given.
As your posting history shows, you have mainly posted articles from The Expose, a dodgy website run by a machine shop guy in England, blog posts from Steve Kirsch’s substack and the like for two years. You have praised and defended the likes of Robert O. Young, a grifter twice arrested for practicing medicine without a license and sentenced to prison, who claims all sorts of ridiculous things are in the vaccines and believes viruses do not exist — and Brian Ardiss, a chiropractor who laughably claims the vaccines contain snake venom. You have even stated that Covid is not caused by a virus, but rather by vaccines given to people unawares in some grand conspiracy, and said you got that idea from Ardiss.
If you want to believe all this stuff, fine. That’s your prerogative. I prefer verifiable facts. You are free to prefer your graph, for which you have provided no supporting documentation or explanation of methodology, and to imagine this little girl died of a vaccine she likely never received.
I believe you are paid to push the deadly CDC 'narrative' whereas I am a volunteer so I really get tired of you throwing fake 'fact checkers' at the Covid biowarfare effort.
YOU.ARE.WRONG and I believe, intentionally so.
Lean closer so I can spell it out - THE CDC LIES FOR A LIVING!
The CDC deletes and suppresses and delays records into VAERS so VAERS is always an undercount. That is my objection to VAERS - the database tries to hide more than it tries to report.
However, we can use VAERS as it is better than nothing in that SOME REPORTS GET THROUGH. Right now, researchers have calculated something like an under reporting factor of 41.
From yet another website which bases its reports on VAERS, there are 16,535 cases of myocarditis reported to VAERS post Covid 'vaccination'. You can, if you wish, create exports to view the patient ID's and records for those 16,535 cases. Note that Covid 'vaccines' account for 98.14% of all cases reported to and published by the CDC in the past 30 years.
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php
But wait, there's more! There are more cases but because VAERS is intentionally difficult and ineffecient to use, you'd have to look at all the records classified as 'unknown' vaccine. That's right - VAERS reserves 6 - 8 weeks for it to 'review records' (and delay public interest/reaction) before publishing and then publishes records with missing information or the diagnosis written by hand in a separate field and not counted unless you perform seperate searches. You'd have to screen all Covid19 vax records for the diagnosis hand written (if ever transcribed) in a separate field. You have to find the variations of terminology which refer to the same illnesses and search both by pre-typed fields and hand written fields.
How many cases you can 'find' often relies on how much expertise you access when dealing with the CDC's intentionally hard-to-use by design 'public database.'
Fauci had billions to distribute like candy - the VAERS database would run like a champ if the CDC/NIH/FDA wanted it to - but they left it poorly designed for all this time.
You are part of the psyop so you complain when I point out that Reuters is part of the psyop too. The MSM, Biden regime and Medical regime are lying, as are you.
You never asked for corroborating information or ridiculed 'lone graphs' and data put out by the CDC. You just blessed it and promoted it as fact. When citizens realize they are being conned and they get the VAERS exports themselves and crunch the numbers, SUDDENLY your requirements for data reporting become exacting and you point to MSM 'narrative' sources to reign in those who are reporting the truth.
catherd: "You claim “some health care providers” are “punished” for reporting to VAERS, but this is merely your assertion."
Oh no, I've posted this stuff since MARCH of 2021. I've researched intensely for almost 2 years. I've posted articles about medical providers being punished and much of your other fake assertions.
It takes you 30 seconds to find a study that Fauci's billions of NIH grant funds he dispersed over the past decades PAID FOR. You snap your fingers and expect me to go back through 2 years of my posts looking to satisfy the demands of a pharma troll who, I know for a fact, has never and will never acknowledge the truth that is obviously killing, sterilizing and disabling Americans at an unprecedented rate.
There's so many lies in your response and we know you're going to keep lying so I'll wrap it up with one more of your lies for the night:
catherd: "I did not “rewrite” the numbers in the JAMA article,"
You absolutely rewrote the JAMA numbers. By comparing your quote to JAMA's, I proved you refer to different populations - JAMA specifies 'reported to CDC' ( a much smaller number than reality) and you imply that the numbers you quote are known to be accurate for all the millions of vaxed (a wild distortion). These are VASTLY two different numbers. And when I point it out, you double down.
You and your kind always pretend not to see or understand that vaccine harm is OFF the charts for Covid 'vaccines' in comparison to all other vaccines combined over the past 30 years. You try to say 'well there were so many more vaxxed with Covid' but approx 2 years of annual influenza 'vaccines' match the Covid data. But oh no, you troll on and on.